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Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by _visgean on Monday May 25, 2020 @02:38PM (#23303580)
The same thing can't really happen in US because US does not have state media. (Apart from funding Radio free Europe which can't operate in US.)
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by Barrin92 on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:04PM (#23304390)
The thing that public radio stations like this try to prevent has already happened in the US. Which is bifurcation of news sources into partisan camps.

It's just that American citizens don't see a problem with partisan information or censorship as long as it is privately served.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by azinman2 on Monday May 25, 2020 @02:43PM (#23303632)
So what’s NPR, PBS, and VOA?

Note that Trump is actively trying to reorient VOA to be Trump-friendly right now.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by mintplant on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:13PM (#23303937)
NPR is an independent nonprofit organization. Most of its funding comes from member station dues, as well as donations, grants, sponsorships, etc. 2% of the parent organization's revenue comes from government grants. Member stations also receive some government grants but most of their funding comes from listener contributions, sponsorships, etc.

The situation with PBS is similar but a bit more complicated to tease apart. The majority of PBS's funding comes from member station dues, but it also does receive some tens of millions from the federally-funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) each year, and the CPB also supports those member PBS stations. PBS and the CPB also work together on program acquisition and development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by lonelappde on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:12PM (#23303924)
They have editorial independence. At most they have financial dependence.

And Trump's attack on VOA is failing because VOA is protected from him by law.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by etrabroline on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:12PM (#23303921)
You might find this spin-job entertaining.

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:7064410002

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by tehjoker on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:14PM (#23304486)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

For those that don't like to read there's a brief animated YouTube introduction voiced by Amy Goodman of "Democracy Now!":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

This theory, backed by enormous volumes of evidence and case studies, is very much worth a read. It explains how propaganda is instituted in the US without overt censorship.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by dntbnmpls on Monday May 25, 2020 @07:44PM (#23306040)
All modern nations ( especially major nations ) have state media. No nation can exist without state media. Propaganda is a necessary condition for a nation.

All the major media companies are part of the state. If you think the NYTimes, Disney, CBS, etc are not part of the state, then you really haven't been paying attention.

The difference is that in some countries the state uses the government to control propaganda, in other countries the state uses the political party to control propaganda, in other countries the state uses money to control propaganda and in other countries it's a mishmash of some or all of these controls.

Also, there is a difference in level of control. Some assert total control while other have degrees of control to create an illusion of free press.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by ur-whale on Monday May 25, 2020 @02:48PM (#23303677)
You are deeply deluded.

The control isn't exerted in the same way, but it is certainly there.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by hindsightbias on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:36PM (#23304143)
It’s always amazed me that Americans are never curious as to why they always have the vast diversity of just two choices from major domestic sources.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by ashtonkem on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:23PM (#23304563)
If you’re talking about partisan politics, that’s a consequence of our voting system.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by viklove on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:15PM (#23304491)
It always amazes me how much foreigners love to hate on America regardless of what the reality of a situation is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_Unit...
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by silverreads on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:52PM (#23304836)
They all just seem to re-print AP articles though?
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by hindsightbias on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:30PM (#23304628)
And yet they all say the exact same things...

As an American, I suggest you try some foreign media. Unless you’re uncomfortable hearing something outside your safe space.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by viklove on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @01:02PM (#23313582)
> And yet they all say the exact same things...

Got some proof of this?

> I suggest you try some foreign media

I read plenty of foreign media, I'm not nationalistic or racist like you.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by hindsightbias on Friday May 29, 2020 @01:23PM (#23352792)
Ah, after hatefully assuming I’m an American-hating foreigner, I’m now an American-hating nationalisitc racist American...

Bully for you!

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by viklove on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @05:53PM (#23396809)
Oh wow you're really stupid. I'm calling you an American-hating foreigner who doesn't read any media that doesn't originate from your own country.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by _visgean on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:59AM (#23310539)
Hi, I have never been to US. My country has state funded media that works well. However I follow the developments in Poland and Hungary so I am very well aware how quickly these media can get under control of the politicians.

The comment above you are referencing is simply saying there is not the same type of media operating in US and therefore it is impossible that the same thing is happening in US. There might be other nasty stuff happening but exactly the same.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by kristopolous on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:30PM (#23304634)
If by "state" you mean the collections of peoples who have administrative authority over how society operates then corporations are part of this.

We use government officials to lobby overseas on corporation's behalf, issue new currency to make sure they stay afloat, entrust them with water, power, roads, waste management and schools. They make our war supplies, run the mercenaries for the wars, manage the state's finances through private banks and run elections. Some even have charters to manage entire cities (such as the Irvine Group).

We use state apparatuses to defend them overseas. They run the media and manage such mundane state functions as traffic citations and parking fees. Corporations are part of the state apparatus.

You could say corporations aren't part of the state apparatus because you've personally decided not to classify them as such ... but that's just playing some theatrical dictionary game, it's not real. If something runs the elections, fights the wars, manage the municipal services and finances, then they are the state, that's what the word means. Corporations are part of the unelected bureaucratic administrative state.

We have state media, we just call it "corporate media" but that's merely a rhetorical slight of hand.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by etrabroline on Monday May 25, 2020 @10:21PM (#23306878)
I think it's better to think of both the state and the media as arenas in which political battle is waged. US corporate media is not literally state media, but they are both controlled by the same political forces that currently dominate the US. Wikipedia calls this the "state-as-venue" view.