Didn't the part that said
"Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that a few decades later, liberals would be pushing the lie that Western civilization is no better than a third-world country. Or would teach two generations of our kids that loving your own culture and wanting to preserve it are racism."
at the beginning clue you in?
The author certainly doesn't try very hard to be subtle.
The whole point of the 1984 scenario was that people couldn't talk about the preceding period and no evidence supporting its existence could be found.
Let's suppose that there are five tiers on the spectrum of "good" to "1984": Acknowledge the history; Omit it; Contradict it, Erase it, Punish dissenters.
Prior to 2016 most US politicians never went past Omit.
Bush 2.0 did a good job of making the media toe the line by shutting out any dissenters. This was the beginning of the neo-con manipulation game.
Complaining about how you'll get banned doesn't immunize you against getting banned, btw. You have to actually follow the rules, and this sort of flamebait and nationalistic battle is well outside the line.
The doctrine is commonly known as 3 warfares and was drawn up by officers in the Chinese military in the beginning of the 90'ies. The success of the officers behind the strategy have since moved on to become high ranking military officials, which should give you an idea about how their work was received within the Chinese government.
Looking for classic cold war patterns is not going work with China.
Good question. I think it does if downvotes result in inability to express an opinion (as opposed to simply having downvotes shown).
If downvotes are used to suppress freedoms then downvoting is a means of censorship. In other words, there is no big difference between prohibiting something by one person (dictatorship) or by 10 persons (collective dictatorship) (if it is not prohibited by law of course).
Actually, most of the propaganda here and in social media has been anti-chinese. Obnoxiously so.
> The number of people supporting Zoom, WHO, WeChat, etc is enough to conclude with near certainty this site as well is owned by the Chinese.
What? Almost everything about Zoom, WHO, WeChat, etc has been negative. Even this thread has been negative.
> What you're speaking is truth. It's a shame this site will censor you.
Don't. The obvious victimhood propaganda won't get you very far here.
> It is no coincidence so much information suppression has gone on the last 3 months...
3 months? It's been going on for many years. And I don't think it is the chinese behind it.
People like you tell us that the russians and now the chinese control propaganda in the US and yet everything I read, see or hear is anti-russian and anti-chinese. Either the russians and chinese hate themselves or they are just terrible at propaganda or you are simply wrong.
The main issue is how a site provides tools for promoting healthy discussion. As long as a submission cooperates with a site's guidelines, the site's (moral) duty after that is to ensure that people that make good use of logic, reason, facts, and sources have their voices heard. What I see sometimes on this site is that people that have legitimate arguments and authoritative sources have their posts silenced (greyed out) or flagged just because a majority group of users disagreed emotionally. To me, that is a red flag. I believe that HN tries it's best to promote healthy discourse but I also believe that there is more they can do to optimize it.
yes, exactly. hacker news, even more so than other sites i visit, has a very anti-chinese bend to it. however, the parent article is indeed interesting.
If anything, the fact that anyone considers this at all notable should be a sign of just how racially biased casting is in most Western media. The world isn't nearly as white as it looks on your TV.
They brought up race because they were replying to a racist conspiracy theory amounting to them running Hollywood and pushing their agenda.
Hacker News is one of the few sites - others being Stormfront, Daily Stormer, 8chan - where that kind of shit still flies.
China has increased their power. Calling that notion racist discounts all of the different people who make up China's population. China is a country with people of many different colors, backgrounds and religions. Thinking of China as a single color is a little racist.
And they own media companies to push their agenda is flat out, textbook conspiracy theory racism, unless you have more evidence than something completely unrelated.
In that logic, criticizing someone is racism towards each and every group that human happens to be part of. That's plain silly.
Just criticism of the Israeli government?
Is your point seriously that such a statement is racist when about Jewish people, but not racist when about Chinese people?
Why do you think the last few Transformer movies were made?
China is using its position to propagate and censor media both domestically and globally.
Not liking the actions of a government doesn't mean you're racist against that population.
https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/
> Decisions to cast Tilda Swinton as a 'celtic' incarnation of the Ancient One, typically a Tibetan character, alongside the choice to move Stephen Strange's place of spiritual enlightenment and training from Tibet to Nepal, have created significant controversy online from those who argue that Marvel Studios is whitewashing Strange's backstory to better appeal to the Chinese government.
Propaganda doesn't have to look like a commercial from a tourism board.
Then what you said has nothing to do with what I was commenting on, which was not a claim that Hollywood will do what it has to do to access the Chinese market, but a claim that "they" own stakes in media companies to push pro-Chinese propaganda to the American public.
Do you have some examples of that?
You can split hairs and say that's technically not pro-German, but anti-Jewish or whatever, and put "they" in quotes all you want; nobody who cares about the actual individual people and not just sophistry in a vacuum will be moved by it.
The diversity of Americans is not being represented anymore. Trying to sell to the Chinese market has unintended costs.
Or are we using propaganda and opinions interchangeably here
Here's a whole article on it: https://www.cnet.com/features/marvel-is-censoring-films-for-...
It's not a matter of "separated from opinion", but rather the cutting of certain scenes or modification of certain lines of dialog. They also effectively engage in various forms of product placement on a more nationalistic level.
and anyway in recent years they tried to promote China in movies as cooperating nation helping world
They own stakes in many american media companies and movie production houses. They use this influence to also change our Media and push pro-Chinese propaganda to the American public.