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Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by jeltz on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:05AM (#22876091)
But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries one can chose a story to tell. I think it is too early to say if Sweden's strategy was stupid or not.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by roel_v on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:14AM (#22876446)
Belgium counts deaths not in hospitals much more accurately. Really, looking at worldometer numbers and comparing between countries makes no sense whatsoever, yet everyone (including media) does it anyway.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dx034 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:50AM (#22876654)
Belgium has people concentrated in a few centers, is a travel hub in the middle of Europe and has a high density of EU employees. With that they imported cases from pretty much everywhere at an early stage.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by willis936 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:25AM (#22876512)
Know what else Belgium has? A flattened growth rate. Sweden’s on alone a bad track.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by chewz on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:15AM (#22876157)
I guess Denmark and Norway as both Nordic countries with similiar wealth and culture are as similar to Sweden as possible.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by PunchTornado on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:00AM (#22876369)
one can argue that Sweden has a larger immigrant population than those countries. Majority of deaths in Sweden are from immigrant populations. They are blamed for not following the social distancing rules that most Swedens follow day to day. Also they are poorer, live in larger families in small houses etc. and it is harder for them to follow the rules.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by CydeWeys on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:13AM (#22877898)
One can also argue that the virus doesn't care about your ethnicity, and just because it's hit some particular community hard first doesn't mean it's not going to spread through the rest of your society too absent serious measures being taken. In the US, focusing on the "others" who had the virus, in our case the Chinese, while not taking effective measures early enough to stop the disease, was a huge mistake. It was a distraction, an excuse for racism and not doing more. This is not just a disease of poor immigrants. It's coming for everyone.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by malandrew on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:51AM (#22878371)
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by iso1631 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @11:37AM (#22879017)
How much of that is related to a higher percentage of black people doing more dangerous jobs (one with increased contact with the public)

Of the three people they mention in the article, two take buses.

There's not even an attempt to control. Are black judges living in Westchester statistically more likely than white judges living in Westchester to suffer more from the disease?

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by CydeWeys on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @11:30AM (#22878892)
That doesn't remotely change the fact that non-black people are still dying in droves, and you can't attempt to minimize this pandemic as saying "Well it's mostly black people dying, so if you're not black don't worry", which is the analogy to the post about the poor foreign immigrants dying from it in greater numbers in Sweden.

Don't just drop a link, let's hear your real argument here.

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by malandrew on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:20AM (#22899767)
I'm not making an argument. I'm just providing a reference to counter the claim made. I have no dog in this fight other than I like to see references and evidence. Hence why I only dropped a link. You don't need to pick fights with everyone, you know?
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by Lewton on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:58AM (#22876357)
Belgiums population density is much much higher