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Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by spyspy on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:27AM (#22684802)
Anecdotally, my parents keep bringing up this narrative every time we talk on the phone. I've reminded them that while me and my fiance dutifully haven't left the house since last Sunday they've happily gone to the grocery store multiple times, attended a funeral, and had wine at their neighbor's house. They also refused to stop babysitting my niece and nephew until I called my brother and convinced him to stop dropping them off. But no, young people are the reckless ones.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by corpMaverick on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:34AM (#22684878)
As a parent of a young man. I understand why your parents have these fears. They know what they are doing, but they don´t know what you are doing other than what you tell them. Even if they trust you, this is a deeper fear. You could start lecturing your parents about how dangerous this is, so they are convinced that you are taking it seriously.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by beat on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:45AM (#22684988)
As the parent of adult children currently living at home... one of ours keeps going out to be with friends. I understand she needs to get out of the house sometimes, but it's unnerving, knowing the points of contact (she often goes to her boyfriend's house, with his five currently-unemployed roommates).

Then again, she works in a children's health clinic. I know what vector is probably going to bring COVID into our house.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by dchichkov on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:31AM (#22685513)
It'd be interesting to understand what evolutionary pressures the combined behaviors of population have on COVID-19.

Distancing arguably should create evolutionary pressure towards a weaker, asymptomatic, more contagious virus. And reckless behavior in the segments of population unaffected by the virus may put evolutionary pressure to make it a stronger, but not as contagious virus.

(an uninformed opinion of a software engineer / researcher)...

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by me_me_me on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:49AM (#22685694)
> Distancing arguably should create evolutionary pressure towards a weaker, asymptomatic, more contagious virus

This doesn't make sense to me. Distancing reduces number of cases and chances to spread infections, reducing chances for successful mutations.

It seems that instead of having multiple strains you will end up with most resilient strain in the end. But that's probably better as you have to fight a single strain then.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by SamBam on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:50AM (#22685052)
I would really hope that someone working in a health clinic would be more careful than that. Going over to other people's houses is exactly what people are not supposed to be doing.

From my observations, the people who are most flippant about this seem to be boomers and young adults 20-25. I still see groups of young adults on the sidewalks, clearly not roommates, even though our state is in lockdown, and we're right next to a state that's starting to overwhelm their hospitals because of this kind of behavior.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by jwbwater on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:43AM (#22685627)
A healthcare worker I talked to had the opinion that she's getting exposed at work anyway so why not do what she wants outside of work.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by kian on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @12:03PM (#22685847)
shame that this healthcare worker apparently doesn't care for the other people she exposes. Perhaps the wrong profession?
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by JPKab on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:54AM (#22685088)
You're at really high risk in that living situation.

Does she not have another place she can stay? I'm assuming she is aware of the risk to you?

Never met you before, but as a fellow human being that situation sounds very high risk for you.

I'm very glad that none of my dad's five kids boomeranged right now. I had to cancel visiting him. Terrible situation.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by beat on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:16AM (#22685351)
She's back at home temporarily (broke up with a boyfriend that left her in a bad financial situation, moved back home to recuperate). She was planning to move out this summer and move in with friends who were buying a house, but buying a house may not be viable for them now due to a job at risk.

Someone once gave me a definition of family... "If you have to go there, they have to let you in".

On the flip side, I think we're all going to get exposed sooner or later, over the course of the next year or so. I'll just get exposed sooner than ideal.

On the plus side, she may be moving entirely to work from home in the near future, as they'll be closing inpatient services at her clinic. On the minus side, her brother just got a job at a grocery store after losing his retail job at the mall (mall closed), so now he's probably an even worse vector than she is.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by jetset15 on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:38AM (#22685593)
Lecturing is a good idea, even more so if you rarely lecture your parents back, which I assume a lot of children don't. This is something I did to my parents and it changed the way they are approaching this pandemic. Social distancing is happening here now and they have respected my thoughts and ideas since they're scared and trust the information I'm supplying them is valuable.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by AndrewKemendo on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @11:44AM (#22685634)
Another anecdote to put on the pile:

I spoke with my mother recently and we were lamenting how people were completely ignoring the "JUST STAY HOME" guidance. As the call was ending she mentioned how she was about to have her sisters and friends over for wine the next day. To which I replied that she was doing exactly what she was lamenting others doing.

I think most people just assume they are the exception and can be trusted to do this correctly, when in fact the guidance is the way it is explicitly because that is not the case.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by BurningFrog on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @10:42AM (#22684949)
Maybe they care more about your life than their own.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by VectorLock on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @12:34PM (#22686175)
I've been hearing "I rather die from Coronavirus than live my life in fear of it" from some at risk people who don't wish to isolate. Which I suppose is their decision. They'll unfortunately change their tack pretty fast when it becomes hard to breathe.
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by vardump on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @12:41PM (#22686247)
Unfortunately once infected, that risk-taker will infect others and accelerate disease growth rate.

Infecting others who have no option to completely isolate or are just plain unlucky. Some of which will have possibly life-long lung damage. And some will die who would have otherwise survived.

Responsible people isolate, because they don't want to harm or worse, kill others.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by taylodl on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @12:47PM (#22686296)
It's not about living in fear. We're not quarantined because of fear. We're quarantined because of knowledge - we know how contagious this is, we know what the hospitalization rates are, we know our medical resources will be quickly depleted and we know how to slow the spread until we're better able to respond. The question we need to ask ourselves is why weren't we prepared?
Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by ballenf on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @01:21PM (#22686589)
The fear is of the unknown chance that it will be serious for you or someone close to you. I think everyone is resigned to the fact that they'll get it eventually.

Personally, I'm more in fear of having some non-coronavirus related emergency and not being to get good healthcare.

Re:Twenty-one year old with no pre-existing conditions dies ... by abnry on Wednesday March 25, 2020 @01:09PM (#22686491)
Don't meet anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence.