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Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by CydeWeys on Saturday January 25, 2020 @01:21PM (#22147683)
Maybe (hopefully?) China will shut down these markets after this outbreak. They've been known to take serious measures in the past when necessary. Surely the benefit of these markets cannot outweigh their costs (including on the local wildlife, not just infectious diseases).
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by sgustard on Saturday January 25, 2020 @04:46PM (#22148819)
I've been told by friends in China that modern cities like Beijing shut down these markets years ago. It's still a holdover from the huge migration from rural to urban environments, and a cultural preference for eating wild meats, more so than a cost of living issue.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by alisonatwork on Saturday January 25, 2020 @08:16PM (#22149758)
Wuhan is a modern city.

I've never been to Beijing but I have visited two of the other tier one cities and I can assure you wet markets still exist there.

Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by 9nGQluzmnq3M on Saturday January 25, 2020 @08:54PM (#22149881)
In places like Singapore (Chinese dominant culture, but different government), wet markets exist, but they don't sell unregulated wild meat.

I gather the one in Wuhan wasn't supposed to either, but either enforcement was lacking or they were paid to look the other way.

Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by khuey on Saturday January 25, 2020 @10:10PM (#22150148)
How much unregulated wild meat is there in the city-state of Singapore to begin with?
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by isatty on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:36AM (#22160220)
Close to none.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by adrianmonk on Sunday January 26, 2020 @12:13AM (#22150506)
Recent and relevant interview from All Things Considered (NPR):

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/22/798644707/why-wet-markets-per...

One interesting point was they had tried to discourage these markets in the past and replace them with supermarkets, but people didn't want to switch. These markets offered food cheaper, people like them, they might offer opportunities to socialize, and they offer wild animals which are traditionally viewed as healthy and a sign of wealth.

Of course, the Chinese government can do a more authoritarian crackdown on it than what they tried in the past. Also, maybe this outbreak could change public opinion.

Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by verroq on Saturday January 25, 2020 @02:05PM (#22147954)
Won’t that just drive it underground? Then nobody would even know where it started when the next outbreak happens.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by CydeWeys on Saturday January 25, 2020 @02:15PM (#22148021)
Don't underestimate how effectively a totalitarian and surveillance state like China can be in discouraging behaviors they don't want. People aren't willing to risk their lives just to eat exotic animals. And that could be what's at stake here; witness what happened to some of the people involved in the melamine baby milk formula scandal.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by verroq on Saturday January 25, 2020 @02:31PM (#22148123)
Seems like they are already risking their lives eating exotic animals.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by ddalex on Sunday January 26, 2020 @04:20AM (#22151224)
Thinking that the wild animals are more healthy
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by csomar on Saturday January 25, 2020 @03:03PM (#22148326)
You can drive it underground because, I think, the problem is coming from having too many animals/people in a small crowded place. If people were to raise their own cattle it'd be much healthier[-].

- Not really an expert, might be wrong.

Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by apta on Sunday January 26, 2020 @08:29AM (#22151963)
That's a very western-centric view of things. I'm assuming trying to draw parallels from happened when the US tried alcohol prohibition, which failed partially due to government greed. These things can be effective in other cultures, especially when people believe in the cause (e.g. see how quickly and efficiently alcohol consumption practically ceased overnight in Islamic history).
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by Zod666 on Saturday January 25, 2020 @03:48PM (#22148528)
It is because of the wealth disparity. A massive chunk of the population lives in absolute poverty. I don't see them fixing that anytime soon.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by wcoenen on Saturday January 25, 2020 @04:21PM (#22148695)
> massive chunk of the population lives in absolute poverty

30 years ago yes, but not anymore.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?locations=C...

Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by 9nGQluzmnq3M on Saturday January 25, 2020 @08:55PM (#22149889)
Also, the rural folks living in poverty are not the ones buying exotic animals in a big city like Wuhan. Although they may well be at the start of the supply chain, catching it for the well-heeled city folks treating guests to exotic banquets.
Re:New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in... by ajmurmann on Saturday January 25, 2020 @04:06PM (#22148613)
Maybe they could take some of the wealth some Chinese have accumulated and give it to the poor and needy, but that's probably just communist crazy talk from me.

Edit: typos