Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @11:38AM
(#22085308)
OK, the actual design of the thing where it just uses suction is incredibly idiotic, but the kid who got free wireless internet for months by taking its sim card - that's pretty brilliant.
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Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by Jamwinner on Saturday January 18, 2020 @11:43AM
(#22085339)
The alternative, tire boots, are equally asinine and more likely to damage the car. These seem fractionally better up to the point where they are hacked. Unessarily connected devices are a liability beyond measure, and it floors me that nobody seems to notice.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by cgriswald on Saturday January 18, 2020 @11:59AM
(#22085454)
A boot, at least, does not obstruct a now-angry driver's view. I have no doubt people will try to drive away with these devices on their windshield despite the loud noise. It's a recipe for accidents.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by trynewideas on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:40PM
(#22086130)
I appreciate the many definitions of "hacking" and "turn on your defroster for 15 minutes" qualifies as a clever exploit.
But at some point a bad product has to be called a bad product. A deterrent that can't deter anyone, but does less damage than a boot, is still useless, not better.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by nickysielicki on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:51PM
(#22087104)
This is a stupid question, but something I’ve always wondered about is how tow trucks disengage the clutch and/or the parking brake... am I to understand that they simply don’t? So if I park my manual transmission car in reverse and with the parking brake on, they’re just going to literally drag my car to their lot or destroy my gearbox? How is this not a bigger issue?
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by AngryData on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:52PM
(#22087542)
They will just pick it up from whichever end is the drive side wheel, or they will 'break' into your car and put it in neutral. Depends on the tow business though, around me they only have flat bed haulers so they will just cable your car up and drag it on. Ideally also in neutral, but they would have no problem doing it even with a locked 4 wheel drive vehicle since the cable is lifting a bit up and the tow truck is many times heavier than any consumer vehicle and it isn't enough force at low speed to cause any damage.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by sojournerc on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:12PM
(#22087245)
Depends on the car and where it's drive wheels are. Also I think tow drivers are authorized to use a tool to break in to the car (non destructively) to put it in neutral if necessary.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by jimktrains2 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:32PM
(#22087409)
Aside: if you ever notice a teeny tiny panel that has a dimple or hole to open it with by the shifter, that's the release for the interlock that prevents changing gears without the keys. That's how you get in neutral when the owner isn't present.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by dsfyu404ed on Saturday January 18, 2020 @09:03PM
(#22088853)
It's really not damaging to drag a car up onto a rollback with a locked parking brake or in park. The systems involved can take it just fine.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by tclancy on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:13PM
(#22087262)
Thy pick it up by the end that actually does the driving. Not sure what happens with full four wheel drive locked. Use a full-size wrecker I suppose.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by ISL on Saturday January 18, 2020 @04:55PM
(#22087559)
4WD/AWD cars can be towed by flat-bed, or by putting dollies below the wheels that are on the ground.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by tynpeddler on Saturday January 18, 2020 @05:06PM
(#22087618)
They put carts under the wheels.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by michaelmrose on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:57PM
(#22087151)
It's substantially worse because the easier and cheaper it is to extract revenue from you the more people will do it.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by AJ007 on Saturday January 18, 2020 @11:48AM
(#22085382)
The SIM card thing might be a felony.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by phkahler on Saturday January 18, 2020 @12:08PM
(#22085527)
Didnt a court recently rule that someone taking off a GPS tracker (and throwing it away?) was not theft? My memory is fuzzy on that one.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by acdha on Saturday January 18, 2020 @12:26PM
(#22085638)
That’s different: in this case the student was knowingly using a metered service and would have no reason for doing so other than shifting their cost to someone else.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by phkahler on Monday January 20, 2020 @02:00PM
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That looks like it. Can't find any followup on the case or more importantly any ruling on the theft issue.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by FireBeyond on Saturday January 18, 2020 @12:42PM
(#22085742)
How is that analogous to hacking a device so you can tether to it and use its data plan to avoid costs yourself?
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by stoops on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:58PM
(#22086275)
They gave it to him. They put it on his car.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by FireBeyond on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:08PM
(#22088360)
Ooh, I'd love to hear that one in court.
"Your Honor, that sign on the entrance to the parking lot discussing parking restrictions and enforcement thereof somehow implied that they're giving me this device and authorization to use it how I see fit".
I suppose if someone leaves their wallet on the hood of your car while they're tying their shoelace, they've also authorized you to use their credit cards, right?
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by brokensegue on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:45PM
(#22086605)
If your car gets booted and you pick the lock to remove it can you now legally sell the boot?
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by michaelmrose on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:58PM
(#22087154)
They abandoned it.
Re:Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines ...
by brokensegue on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:05PM
(#22088352)
the same way the dockless scooter companies abandoned their scooters?