News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Work on these things by dmos62 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:05AM (#22001236)
IQ, life expectancy, top-tier universities, super effective, culture of excellence, higher GDP, worker productivity, state of knowledge. Given that a list of priorities betrays a view of the world, I find something eery about this one. Nothing said is obviously wrong, but there's something between the lines that I can't quite put my finger on. To retreat to imagery, I feel like a forest is being missed for the trees, but with a hint of violence.
Re:Work on these things by xwowsersx on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:21AM (#22001376)
I have to agree with you and admit that I'm somewhat relieved to see I'm not the only one who felt this way. The list as a whole reflects a certain self-unaware separateness from the "real world". It is hard to describe, but eery indeed.
Re:Work on these things by rusk on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:35AM (#22001480)
I think it smacks of a young person who has been spending a lot of time trying to get an insight into what super-wealthy industry leaders, VC, politicial leaders etc. are wondering about, to the point that these lines of enquiry seem perfectly normal and hasn't had enough exposure to the broader picture to understand why these things are weird, even unfeasible. Could be completely wrong. Just a guess.

EDIT just checked his Bio. Nope, not young. Perhaps just in some sort of bubble. Thinktank perhaps. The whole tone is all very think-tanky.

Re:Work on these things by xwowsersx on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:39AM (#22001513)
Haha yes, before you edited I was going to say he's 57! It's more the bubble/think-tank thing, you're right.
Re:Work on these things by rusk on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:40AM (#22001525)
He's a "policy wonk"
Re:Work on these things by nathan_compton on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:49AM (#22002138)
Its also nuts that one of these "things to work on" is "find me a wife, I'm too high performing to find one on my own."
Re:Work on these things by realbarack on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:03AM (#22002262)
I strongly disagree with this comment. Many, many people pour massive amounts of time and energy into finding a partner, and often end up dissatisfied with the results. Mechanics that improve the experience and the result of dating really would make life easier and better for many people. If you doubt this, have some conversations with people in their late 20s and 30s who are dating.

Your "find me a wife" portrayal is the least charitable possible interpretation of that section of the article. Was your comment made in good faith?

Re:Work on these things by oceanofsolaris on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:20AM (#22002438)
Since he seems to be married (according to Wikipedia), this strikes me as a very uncharitable reading. (It would also be uncharitable if he wasn't married though)
Re:Work on these things by mcguire on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:29AM (#22002530)
Uncharitable, yes, but doesn't that item strike you as weirdly out of place?

I mean, even in this list.

Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:44AM (#22002717)
I think it's the "highly effective people are not doing this well" comment that strikes us. Nobody is doing this well, but his emphasis on top performers makes it seem like "we need to solve this problem for them so they can go back to being highly effective"
Re:Work on these things by mcguire on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:49AM (#22002767)
Good point.

To my mind, this list is very much like the "how to make more entrepreneurs (in the VC sense) more successful" articles that show up often.

Re:Work on these things by bitwize on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:05PM (#22005055)
We may want to solve this problem so they can breed and have highly effective children.
Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:21PM (#22005920)
ahh, but for that we need to go back to a world where highly effective people married people who were content to bring up children and not be highly effective themselves. Having children is a huge barrier to being highly effective, unless you can offload all the caring duties onto someone else ;)
Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:14AM (#22001316)
I think what society is really missing is this sense of belonging. We're raised to think that wealth correlates with happiness but it clearly doesn't.

History has always formed these loops of prosperity, then spirituality. I mean it's nice not to starve, but I think people would be happier being part of a tight knit tribe who support one another, even more than having air-conditioning and dating apps.

Re:Work on these things by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:28AM (#22001424)
Could you elaborate on your thinking in regards to loops? I honestly can't think of anything like that. It's not like the Romans were focused on prosperity and then the dark ages were spiritual - as near as I can tell, for the movers and shakers it's always been about power, and for the underclasses it's survival, just with whatever veneer you want to put on it.

In fact it's only recent that the commoner could even aspire to wealth, regardless of whether that actually correlates to ability to achieve it.

Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:36AM (#22002003)
Buddha is textbook - rich fellow who realizes that it hasn't made life better.

Islam went through many cycles of this. Corrupt powerful pagan Quraish. Spiritual Muhammad and Rashidun caliphate. Corrupt Umayyad Caliphate. Spiritual Abbasid Caliphate. The Ottomans went through this as well. We're historically at a low point with regards to Islamic society.

Third world faces this - many of them have abundant natural resources, compared to say, Europe. But the wealth brings corruption, not prosperity.

I think the Rashidun Caliphate has a lot of good examples - caliphs turning down state gifts, distributing most of the wealth, selling off luxuries like silk, jewelry, and carpets for infrastructure, making sure that their families didn't profit from state funds.

Anything where an individual can benefit unfairly from the effort of an organisation is a form of corruption, as it involves abuse of power entrusted. This includes CEOs overpaying themselves, or government leaders with excessively high compensation. They're making use of their position to skim resources for personal benefit, and sadly, it's a culture now that this is what people should aspire to.

Things usually improve when people can draw a line where they have enough, and allocate excess resources to the rest of the organization. This is usually (not necessarily) triggered by spirituality because there's nobody else to keep the watchmen in check.

Once leaders do this, those down the command chain also do the same. There were plenty of situations where commoners were well off - in Egypt, Rome, China, Caliphates, and so on. I believe we actually have lower social mobility today than in some eras of the past, but it's far from terrible.

I could well be wrong, and encourage those with more understanding of history to correct and give counter examples.

Re:Work on these things by blaser-waffle on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:14AM (#22001834)
> We're raised to think that wealth correlates with happiness but it clearly doesn't.

Studies show it does, to a degree. Once you hit something like $70-80k the satisfaction levels off.

It's one of those hygiene things -- not having it will make you (or others) miserable, but having it doesn't mean you're good or happy.

Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:22AM (#22001888)
For the individual, yes.

For a society, I think the culture of making as much as possible has left everyone slightly worse off, instead of slightly better off as we were promised.

Re:Work on these things by harimau777 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:57AM (#22002220)
Do you think that trying to get everyone to the 70k level (or the equivalent in their region) has made society worse off?
Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @05:29PM (#22006584)
If society was focused on getting everyone to 70k, everyone would be happier. But instead, modern society encourages people to make as much as possible, create as many jobs as possible, and pay as close as possible to 15k.
Re:Work on these things by pseudalopex on Thursday January 09, 2020 @05:23PM (#22006549)
Some measurements of stress and sadness level off. Satisfaction keeps going up logarithmically.
Re:Work on these things by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:37AM (#22001490)
Related to this, I recall two issues that could inform his Hong Kong life expectancy point:

1. A recent study that found very high life expectancy "blue zones" were highly correlated with poor record keeping and pensions - the strong implication was that it was mostly fraud. Don't think Hong Kong was one of the areas studied, but I think skepticism is warranted. 2. A common thread I've seen in many longevity studies is that social connectedness is one of the strongest predictors of a long lifespan, and contrarily, "lonely people die young." I'd expect that a very close-knit urban area with relatively low migration (e.g. as opposed to NY or SF where there is so much moving in and moving out) would exhibit this social connectedness.

Re:Work on these things by rusk on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:42AM (#22001537)
I think there's a large undocumented migrant population too, who make up a lot of the working classes and this could skew that stats as well.

EDIT it's a lovely place too, Hong Kong (picturesque, pleasant climate, easy to get around). I'd say that would have a lot to do with it as well, once you can pay the rent ...

Re:Work on these things by rusk on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:40AM (#22001515)
> but it clearly doesn't.

Misery is a very strong inverse correlate however. I'd be given to thinking that a lot of economic activity is driven by the need to escape [EDIT and stay out of] poverty on one end, and a cohort of super-competitive success-addicts on the other. Most other people are quite content in the middle, and want to stay there. It is the threat of penury we should be looking more at than the lure of riches.

Re:Work on these things by zozbot234 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:27AM (#22001415)
> I think what society is really missing is this sense of belonging.

Social capital is what gives people this sense of belonging - of being in a "tight knit tribe". I think that conservatives understand this a lot better than progressives, who tend to see everything about society in terms of either material conditions (wealth vs. poverty), or zero-sum power relations where one side 'wins' and the other side 'loses'. It's not clear that these matter all that much. Plenty of people throughout history had very little in the way of material resources, and were required to answer to people, institutional frameworks etc. exerting some sort of power on them - and yet, they still found lots of ways to smile and be happy at their life. We should understand how they managed to do that.

Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:33AM (#22001462)
I'm not exactly sure it's "social capital".

My favourite definition of a tribe is that it's a group where everyone gives what they can and takes as little as they need to. Everyone should be willing to give their last slice of bread and be offended at the idea of 'owing someone' for it.

This just doesn't scale well, but it happens in things like gaming groups, married couples, etc.

Re:Work on these things by zozbot234 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:42AM (#22001542)
Social capital works differently at different scales. By definition, the kind of tribe you're talking about where "everyone knows (and trusts) everyone else" cannot possibly scale beyond 100 members, which today doesn't even cover a tiny neighborhood in a city. But having dense and reasonably stable social connections is quite helpful even beyond that.
Re:Work on these things by tonyedgecombe on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:43AM (#22001543)
My favourite definition of a tribe is that it's a group where everyone gives what they can and takes as little as they need to.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

Karl Marx.

Re:Work on these things by Ar-Curunir on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:29AM (#22001429)
???

If anything, conservatives and liberals, due to their devotion for capitalism, are united in fracturing people and communities. That's just the natural end goal of an economic philosophy that views everything via the lens of corporate profit.

Re:Work on these things by zozbot234 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:45AM (#22001567)
Capitalism is an economic system centered around market relations, which has little to do with how "people and communities" organize themselves socially. The two issues just have very little to do with each other.
Re:Work on these things by Ar-Curunir on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:28PM (#22005991)
Capitalism relies on the state to enforce private property rights. The free market then naturally influences your government, which in turn naturally influences how people organize their lives. So yes, capitalism influences how people and communities organize themselves.
Re:Work on these things by jacobush on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:17AM (#22001850)
Also, capitalism itself needs to be guided, or it will escape and ruin the rules until it's no longer capitalism, except in name only.
Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:37AM (#22002025)
Wouldn't guiding a free market be opposed to the concept of a free market?
Re:Work on these things by mcguire on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:39AM (#22002657)
Anti-trust laws, for example. Safety and environmental regulations.
Re:Work on these things by jacobush on Friday January 10, 2020 @05:09AM (#22009882)
Yes. In some sort of ideal world, where corporations would never dream of regulatory capture, abusing a monopoly position, finding ways to keep upstarts out of the way.

In the real world, capitalism is an unstable system. The "winner" gets too close to the state and then tries to shape the rules so they fit the incumbent and discourages everyone else. Boeing and the FAA is a recent high profile example.

Re:Work on these things by icebraining on Thursday January 09, 2020 @07:21PM (#22007312)
That's a very US-biased view. There's plenty of conservatism skeptical and even hostile to capitalism and free markets. It's a quite common position in the Catholic community, for example.
Re:Work on these things by maroonblazer on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:38AM (#22001501)
What kind of research project does that translate to?
Re:Work on these things by muzani on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:21AM (#22001876)
We're missing a socioeconomic model that isn't communism or capitalism. Socialism seems like an economic patch, but it's not a satisfactory solution. Socialism is sort of like how free range chickens seems nice but only when compared to how horrid the caged ones have it.

A lot of brainpower in the last century went into technological progress, but we have enough computing power, internet, cloud, data to work on this thing.

Re:Work on these things by danShumway on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:15AM (#22001841)
I'm thankful that someone else wrote this comment so I wouldn't have to try and figure out how to put it into words. This list sets off minor alarm bells for me as well.

I guess part of it is that I look at some of these goals as being kind of naive, for lack of a better word? Measuring worker productivity is a good example -- if I were to try and sit down and think hard about why companies aren't moving quickly, I would say that the problems I see are related to unnecessary scaling, focusing on the wrong business goals, overcomplicating solutions and infrastructure, and an overemphasis on measurement to the point where Goodhart's Law can't possibly not come into play. I'm not sure worker productivity is a real problem that's worth prioritizing over more basic questions like, "how can businesses make sure they're building things that actually solve real-world problems?"

It's very hard to describe. I keep on seeing things that seem very very vaguely "off" to me -- sometimes that I think it's the wrong prioritization, or that there are actually already people working on the problem and the author doesn't seem to be aware of their work, or that the problem is actually more complicated than the author seems to believe it to be ("mechanisms for better matching" is a particularly strange simplification of what makes relationships work).

Anecdotally, usually when I feel this way about an article or topic, I come back later and find that it hasn't aged well. I pay more attention to these feelings now than I used to.

Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:49AM (#22002765)
Measuring software developer productivity is a hard problem. But I totally agree that the biggest production drain in any software team is bad management and bad direction. Building the wrong thing faster is not going to help much. Not wasting time building the thing that the marketing manager thought would be cool while on a night out with the CEO would help more.
Re:Work on these things by notacoward on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:44AM (#22001559)
It all seems to be about increasing economic efficiency. Good little workers, turn dollars into more dollars as efficiently as possible! Nothing about increasing anyone's quality of life, solving environmental problems, advancing science (except tangentially for the NSF/NIH item) let alone arts, etc. It's an MBA wish list, not a human one. Not a surprise considering the source, but still disappointing.
Re:Work on these things by ksdale on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:41AM (#22002674)
Tyler posts all the time about music, literature, food, and travel. I think he's perfectly aware of what's required to increase quality of life. I think this list mostly demonstrates that he believes there are certain people and institutions in the world that are incredibly effective, and we actually don't understand why at all.

We who live at the very top of Maslow's hierarchy wonder at his lack of focus on quality of life, but I believe if you asked most people in the world (people who are not American or European) what they most valued, they'd tell you access to food, clean water, cheap energy, healthcare, etc. Things that come from economic growth, which comes from building effective institutions and increasing the number of people who can be productive.

Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:46AM (#22002737)
Can confirm. Poor people really, really care about money.

Since there are more poor people than rich people, it makes sense to focus on what most humans care about.

Re:Work on these things by dmos62 on Friday January 10, 2020 @05:19AM (#22009933)
To paraphrase Adso in Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose, only the powerful have the privilege of knowing their true enemies. In my own words, if someone who is troubled focuses on something, it doesn't necessarily mean that that something is the cause of their problems.
Re:Work on these things by notacoward on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:51AM (#22002792)
> Things that come from economic growth

Things that come from actually building stuff. Purely economic growth, as represented by banks and brokerages and economics departments, doesn't put food in anyone's belly or a roof over their heads.

Re:Work on these things by ksdale on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:54AM (#22002837)
Definitely! You'll get no argument from me there! I'd add a bunch of apps to that list as well.
Re:Work on these things by Isamu on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:18AM (#22002412)
Tyler Cowen is an academic economist at GMU, so yeah, he presents an economic view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen

>Nothing about increasing anyone's quality of life, solving environmental problems, advancing science

Tyler is all about those things, but his whole thesis is that they are directly linked to economic efficiency. That is not an unsupported idea.

Re:Work on these things by faitswulff on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:14AM (#22001311)
There’s a neoliberal hierarchy implicit in the things the author deems worthy of researching. In other words, things that make more money are inherently better regardless of cultural differences or human factors and we should all aspire to be productivity porn stars. Other types of people or lifestyles don’t warrant investigation.
Re:Work on these things by seibelj on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:19AM (#22001359)
It appears that throughout human history an increase of wealth is the precursor to an increase in all of the things anti-capitalists love. It’s a pretty safe bet that if you want to enrich the poor’s souls then you need to enrich their pockets first.
Re:Work on these things by wasdfff on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:18PM (#22003172)
And here we are at the highest levels of inequality since the 1920s. For the last 100 years, efficiency has meant squeezing every spare penny of disposable income from the working class. These people don’t benefit from market gains.
Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:52AM (#22002808)
I would have agreed with you. But I live in Berlin, which is "poor but sexy", and I'm watching a culture of artists and creativity get destroyed by increasing wealth. I don't have anything else other than this observation, though. I'd love to know why or how, and what we could do to preserve the culture in the face of rising wealth.
Re:Work on these things by klyrs on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:49AM (#22001607)
> It’s a pretty safe bet that if you want to enrich the poor’s souls then you need to enrich their pockets first.

Can't disagree with that. But we haven't been enriching the poor. We've been practicing trickle down economics instead.

Enriching the rich has marvelous side effects like a proliferation of low paying contract work (jobs!), ratcheting housing prices (wealth!) and increased production of luxury goods (utopia!).

But then you look at minimum wage, inflation and the consumer price index; and see that the poor have been hemorrhaging purchasing power since the 1970s.

So, yeah. Increasing wealth is great for humanity. But there's a wide gap between anticapitalism and the neoliberal/libertarian economic theories which brought today's plutocracy. The middle ground is classical capitalism.

Re:Work on these things by zozbot234 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:05AM (#22001750)
> But we haven't been enriching the poor.

Of course not. We've just been lifting many hundred millions of people out of poverty in China, India, South-East Asia and elsewhere, but what does this have to do with "enriching the poor"? Maybe you need to look beyond the literal "first world problems" in your privileged corner of the West.

Re:Work on these things by ianleeclark on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:12AM (#22002345)
> We've just been lifting many hundred millions of people out of poverty in China, India, South-East Asia and elsewhere, but what does this have to do with "enriching the poor"?

I love this line of thinking because it always shows someone has put forth no effort into what the "poverty reduction" means. The International Poverty line has been $1.90/day. So, if you make the equivalent of $1.90 in your country or higher, then you are not in poverty. Now how about you go and do some work and see how nutritionally complete your diet will be on $1.90.

Re:Work on these things by klyrs on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:50AM (#22002785)
> I love this line of thinking because it always shows someone has just guzzled from the gutter of ideology.

I somewhat disagree with zozbot and I agree with your material analysis (I'd add something about the rising Gini indices in the mentioned developing nations), but this sentence adds nothing to the conversation.

Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:57AM (#22002875)
In Europe? well, that's most of a donor kebab in Berlin, so not terrible ;)

In Cambodia... I could easily feed myself on $1.90 a day, if I wasn't white and getting barang (foreigner) prices.

Re:Work on these things by ianleeclark on Thursday January 09, 2020 @02:18PM (#22004465)
No, you get local prices adjusted to 1.90$

As much as I love Döner, half of one isn't nutritionally complete.

Re:Work on these things by marcus_holmes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @04:19PM (#22005893)
As I understand it, the poverty line is $1.90 in USD. Not in local currency, and not adjusted for local prices. Which is why it sounds like anyone living in poverty should starve to death within a week, but they actually don't (because $.190 isn't comfortable in Cambodia, for sure, but if you get local prices you won't starve to death in a week).

OK, half a kebab and a few beers. Many's the time I've woken up to empty beeer bottles and a half-eaten kebab and I haven't starved to death ;)

Re:Work on these things by harimau777 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:09AM (#22002311)
Im not sure suffering works that way. Someone in East Asia who is poor but has a loving family, community, autonomy, and meaning may be better of then a relatively rich Westerner who lacks those things.
Re:Work on these things by zozbot234 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:27AM (#22002508)
That's part of my point, of course - that material resources are clearly important when you're talking about someone who's truly in extreme poverty, but it's not clear whether going beyond this point matters that much more than, say, better social inclusion etc.
Re:Work on these things by Ar-Curunir on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:27AM (#22001416)
Wealth for whom? If the money is going into poor people's pockets, things will improve, but inevitably capitalism, and specially neo-liberalism, will only be lining rich people's pockets. We're seeing that happen right now across the globe, and we're seeing popular uprisings in response to that.
Re:Work on these things by svara on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:49AM (#22001610)
The author is an economist, and therefore steeped in that culture, I think that explains most of it.

That said, I found him very insightful when he came on Eric Weinsteins podcast recently.

Re:Work on these things by sebsito on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:40AM (#22001519)
I expected such semi-negative, distrustful comment the second I finished reading this list. Some will dislike the individualistic, anti-collectivist character of it.
Re:Work on these things by adamsea on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:01AM (#22001717)
I would argue the list is not individualistic at all as, as others posters have mentioned, it implicitly reduces the individual person to their economic output (productivity).

A real individualistic list would focus on the quality of life of the individual.

Of course money is important in that regard but studies have pretty consistently shown that community, meaning, and I’ll throw in health, are the key components of individual happiness.

Re:Work on these things by sebsito on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:40AM (#22002670)
The quality of life, meaning and individual happiness are for individuals to pursue and figure out.

It’s very leftist idea to try to solve that on society’s level.

The list is focusing on things we can improve on society’s level from an individualistic perspective.

Re:Work on these things by notacoward on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:04AM (#22001743)
It's not individualist so much as corporatist, and not so much anti-collectivist as anti-humanist. This post exactly mirrors Stalinism in its reduction of humans to their capacity for production. Can we please just for once stop trying to portray anything but the most extreme pluto-techno-libertarian POV as pure communism?
Re:Work on these things by sebsito on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:42AM (#22002693)
It sounds terrible if you call it “capacity for production” but not so bad if called “ability to fulfill needs of others”
Re:Work on these things by notacoward on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:49AM (#22002763)
Employing a euphemism to make something sound better is always fun (corporate "missions" and "visions" are often good examples) but that doesn't really change the underlying reality.
Re:Work on these things by duxup on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:40AM (#22001522)
There seems to be a confidence that these things can simply be measured by some metric and then improved. That sort of implies a lack of appreciation for the nuance / complexity for some of these topics ... let alone any understanding of what happens if you do simply measure and improve such systems.

It doesn't help that there is no sense of policy or what the goal of some of these things are, like there's no policy here to indicate if we're hoping for an outcome or not...

Reminds me of the manager who shows up and says "oh man look at this mess and all these terrible metrics" and after a few months just changes the metrics and doesn't understand that the metrics themselves create problems ;)

Re:Work on these things by bryanlarsen on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:49AM (#22002139)
It feels off because the author is a conservative. But he's rational and well-spoken. We should be able to welcome him with "I disagree with you but I will listen to your arguments. Sometimes they will be persuasive and change my mind and other times they will help me to strengthen my own arguments against your position".

But his arguments also attract the wackos and are used as justifications by them. Therefore we have an urge or desire to just shut him down justified by "don't feed the trolls".

Re:Work on these things by tootie on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:26AM (#22001409)
Dude is a macro economist. Studying the forest is basically his job.
Re:Work on these things by PaulHoule on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:43AM (#22001544)
My take is that the article expresses interest in topics a certain fraction of the right are interested in (IQ) but it often leans left relative to the interest in those topics (IQ is affected more by environment than 'people who care about IQ' think.)

I do find the calls for institutional criticism to be a bit thin.

In particular, the most troubling "institutions" in our society use decentralization to avoid responsibility. In health care, for instance, everybody can point to somebody else as the source of the problem -- the real case the status quo has against single payer is that now the system can limit costs by denying claims in an unaccountable manner. In a single payer system patients will descend on Washington with their wheelchairs and crutches with their airfare and hotel paid for by "charities" run by the health care industry.

Similar complaints can be made about the media. One reason people don't trust "experts" is that they've never seen real experts, they've only seen the likes of Cokie Roberts and Larry Kudlow. In a world with accountability, people like that wouldn't get traction.

Re:Work on these things by jgwil2 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:04AM (#22002270)
> If you ask informed Filipinos why the street food is mediocre, they will tell you that Philippines lacks a “culture of excellence”.

This line in particular rubs me the wrong way. Who are these "informed" people? Who says the street food is mediocre? Have you looked at other possibilities before pointing the finger at nebulous "culture"? The line of reasoning seems very subjective and unscientific.

Re:Work on these things by lorepieri on Friday January 10, 2020 @05:50AM (#22010065)
See here https://cuervopropertyadvisory.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/is-t...

This also match my personal experience (my girlfriend is from there). The other side of the coin is that they are on average much happier and social than other cultures. This is in line with schools of thought that see happiness as inversely proportional to perfectionism.

Re:Work on these things by bitwize on Thursday January 09, 2020 @11:52AM (#22002817)
> To retreat to imagery, I feel like a forest is being missed for the trees, but with a hint of violence.

oof. Yikes, thanks for letting me know. I'm softblocking him right now. sorry but I saw a joke tweet of his and followed, didn't know that by being curious about research into highly effective people and institutions he was committing or advocating actual, physical harm to people.

Re:Work on these things by pgorczak on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:31AM (#22001442)
I felt this way too. At least one thing is blatantly wrong though: there is no discipline of institutional criticism. This is literally what political science deals with.
Re:Work on these things by crispyambulance on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:19AM (#22001352)
Yeah, there's something "off" about it.

It seems to take for granted that the domain of human affairs runs like clockwork, like a machine that merely "needs fixing". This smells libertarian and a quick google of the authors and their books confirms that suspicion. The "hint of violence" you're detecting is subtly judgemental smugness.

Re:Work on these things by secstate on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:10AM (#22001276)
Oh my. This does appear to be a path towards Marxism. You also missed the call for 10-page "solutions" to municipal and regional government problems.
Re:Work on these things by duxup on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:41AM (#22001528)
I think any large scale plans tend to hint at all sorts of large central planning type systems, in all political directions.
Re:Work on these things by blaser-waffle on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:11AM (#22001795)
Something on Tyler Cowen's blog is a path towards Marxism? LOL

The blog owner (Cowan) runs the Mercatus Center at GMU, which exists entirely to explore free market alternatives. It's funded directly by the Koch family; one of the Koch brothers is on the board.[1]

That said, Tyler Cowen's food blog is pretty good, if you live in the Northern VA / Washington DC area.

[1] https://www.mercatus.org/about and https://www.mercatus.org/board

Re:Work on these things by antisthenes on Thursday January 09, 2020 @10:28AM (#22001932)
Actually, that explains a lot of his posed questions.

Another corporatist Koch shill at GMU that shouldn't be considered an economist if Brian Caplan. If you ever see any "insightful" articles by either one of these, run like hell.

Re:Work on these things by conjectures on Thursday January 09, 2020 @09:31AM (#22001438)
Cowen is something of a libertarian AFAIK, and seems to be hard to predictably position. So...