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Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by philosopher1234 on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:00AM (#21967146)
Could you elaborate why that is?
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by EdwardDiego on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:05AM (#21967174)
They can run around on it, play ball games with their mates, you can put down a slip 'n slide in the summer, there's room for a trampoline etc. etc.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by TeMPOraL on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:46AM (#21967332)
Also (I'm guessing) room for barbecue parties and such - generally facilitating socialization with other families with children.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by Pfhreak on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:40AM (#21969413)
Many of our raised beds have a piece of flat wood on one side that serves as a bench. In the summer we'll host garden parties and people will socialize among the flowers and veggies. The delight people have picking tomatoes, peas, berries, beans, corn, and other things for their meal is real.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by ginko on Monday January 06, 2020 @07:29AM (#21968602)
I'd guess you could do all of this on a meadow as well.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by Sean1708 on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:53AM (#21969098)
What's the difference between a meadow and a lawn? In relation to the article that is, obviously I could tell the difference between a meadow and a lawn.

Edit: To add a bit of context here a lot of people are talking about pesticides and fertilizer and stuff like that but we don't do anything like that, we just mow it when it gets a bit long. Does that mean our lawn is technically a meadow?

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by alistairSH on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:33AM (#21969356)
I'm not aware of specific definitions, but in the context of the US, a lawn often has regular applications of fertilizer and herbicides to promote the growth of a small number (often a single) species of grass. This also requires more regular watering, as the grasses tend to be less drought resistant.

A meadow, or natural lawn, or whatever you want to call it would be a mix of grass, clover, and other "weeds". It wouldn't require anywhere near as much chemical treatment (if any) and could be mowed and watered far less often. To me, it would also be allowed to grow long enough to flower, to promote pollinating insects.

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by EdwardDiego on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:17PM (#21973416)
Huh, no way am I fertilising or spraying weeds out on my lawn, as far as I can tell it's your basic tall fescue grass with some clover and self seeded violets thrown in the mix, and its main function is being trampled by kids. It's lucky if I put a sprinkler on it.

I tend not to let the clover or dandelions flower though, as it attracts bees to the lawn, and barefoot children (very common in my country, and not looked down on like in the US) and bees on a lawn aren't a happy mix.

My garden is filled with heaps of flowering annuals and perennials though.

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by jiofih on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:55AM (#21967674)
Those are all choices, plus you don’t need to turn the entire backyard into a forest.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by rbirkby on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:07AM (#21967179)
A friend once explained that boys are like dogs. They need exercising twice a day. A back yard and a ball are sufficient for that. A paved area is more likely than lawn to provide yet more trips to ER.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by mcv on Monday January 06, 2020 @05:19AM (#21968036)
I wish I could get my son to exercise twice a day. He hates going outside. He prefers his exercise running around in Minecraft, and if he does get it in real life, it's jumping around the living room.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by rubidium on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:11AM (#21968236)
Be a parent. Set rules and consequences. Outside time or no Minecraft seems like a no brainer. Interact and get him to join you in things you like doing outside. He’ll probably hate it for 1 month or 1 year, but it’s your responsibility.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by krageon on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:43AM (#21968373)
If you're involved as a parent, sure. Just for the love of god do not just throw your kid outside saying "play outside", because that sucks. I'm speaking from experience.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by fireflash38 on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:23AM (#21968911)
It sucks for sure, but it can also give you plenty of fuel for creativity & imagination. I would at least throw them outside with some tools & toys.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by mcv on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:32AM (#21969347)
Things I like doing outside? I'm afraid that's a very short list. I totally understand where he's coming from.

We do set rules, it's just that we don't always maintain them very strictly, and he loves to bend them. And when he does play outside to get more Minecraft time, he thinks 15 minutes outside it enough.

It seems he just has no idea what to do outside. As a kid, I regularly played outside, probably because I had to, and so did the other kids in the neighbourhood, so we played outside. But none of his friends plays outside, so there's nothing to do for him outside.

What doesn't help is that we live in a city: no backyard, no fields or forests behind the house, and watch when you cross the street. Plenty of playgrounds fortunately, but the youngest, who loves to play outside, is just 5, which is a bit young to be outside on his own, so he's learning to adapt to indoor play. Maybe playing outside is getting trained out of kids because of the environment we live in.

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by rubidium on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:51AM (#21969502)
Ah yes, your city environment will make it more difficult. That said, if he's old enough to bike (and the city you live in has some bike safe areas) then that's a great hobby to push. Taking 30 minute walks around the neighborhood is another. Regularly going outdoors (taking a walk together, visiting parks, any local state parks) as a family helps. But yea, if you're not doing it it's not going to transfer well to your kids.

Regarding setting rules: Kids are very bright when it comes to getting their way. If there's any loopholes they'll exploit them. If they detect weakness in resolve then they'll push and push using negotiation, guilt, deception, etc... The question they're trying to figure out is, is my parent in charge or can I be? The hardest but best thing you can do as a parent to instill disciple is to be clear, consistent, and follow-through. It's really hard. I'm in the midst of it too!

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by majewsky on Monday January 06, 2020 @05:36AM (#21968095)
Get him a VR headset. Beat Saber can be quite the exercise routine.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by andrewg on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:20AM (#21967225)
Isn’t that true of kids in general?
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by pbhjpbhj on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:02AM (#21967695)
It might be, but that's not the anecdote they were sharing?

In my limited experience (ex cub leader [mixed sex groups], church kids helper, worked with children for 15 years; kids and nieces/nephews of my own) most boys behaviour declines rapidly if you don't "run them", but most girls aren't affected in the same way.

On our scout camps (mixed sex, mixed age, for the last 20 years at least) in free time the girls _tend_ to retreat to their tents and chat and the boys _tend_ to hit the field and run around like idiots. There's obviously a lot of selection bias in these groups too, they do outdoor pursuits, rough camping, etc. -- these girls are fit and hardy and as capable at kayaking/hiking/climbing/backwoodsmanship as the boys (indeed at the top end, 14yo, the girls are often fitter and stronger as they tend to grow a little earlier than the boys do). There's probably some observer bias too, of course, and this is anecdotal (but longitudinal).

My observations of toddlers at "mums & toddlers" groups suggests the ones who run around with a pram are usually boys (though that's far from exclusive; and the mothers [it's about 1:30 men] have very strong gender bias, which might be the origin of that effect).

YMMV.

Interested in other observations, FWIW I'm in the UK.

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by harperlee on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:09AM (#21968227)
Just wanted to highlight that I like it a lot whenever people provide context and limitations to their comments. Very measured and thus easy to take at face value. Thanks a lot!
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by rahuldottech on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:20AM (#21967228)
Ehhhhh. I disagree. That's too much of a generalisation. Different people, different interests. Many kids do like to exercise. Many prefer staying indoor.
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by Ma8ee on Monday January 06, 2020 @02:50AM (#21967355)
Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by ascar on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:28AM (#21968311)
Reading this, the 2 hours of physical exercise per week in school make a lot more sense now from an physiological point of view.

I always just took them as fun time and some kids took them as annoying burden that should be avoided. I not once thought about that they are necessary to develop my body and motor skills.

I always took Judo training as a near perfect way to improve my movement skills though.

Re:Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’ by rebuilder on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:45AM (#21967630)
What kids prefer and what they need are not one and the same. A lot of parenting is about teaching kids to go outside their immediate preferences for long-term gain, and to learn new preferences.