I haven't been able to get spotifyd to work, but I've been using Mopidy and MopidySpotify for years.

What frontend have you been using for mopidy? I've been looking into it as a potential Clementine replacement since Clementine's Spotify support is dead.

Basically I want a good interface for managing large playlists (so nativeish lists with multi select support for add/remove/reorder, not an album art focused UI), and support for mixing Spotify, local and network shared tracks in a single playlist.

Mopidy Iris is the most polished but it doesn't yet support the latest and greatest Mopidy v3.

https://mopidy.com/ext/

It was ~5 years ago, but I used ncmpcpp and Spotify with great success.

Does anyone know why Spotify doesn’t pursue name rights or DMCA takedowns in all these OSS projects, as they reverse engineer and use Spotify’s name? Snapchat practices DMCA/copyright for a lot for these sort of projects.

"Laws can definitely help, but it doesn't take away the problem. The only way to solve the problem was to create a service that was better than piracy and at the same time compensates the music industry – that gave us Spotify."

- Daniel Ek (Spotify co-founder)

I wish the TV industry can accept way of Spotify is the way to go. Instead, now we have dozens of streaming platforms with exclusive contents.

They can't, because they have a different business model. For TV content producers, consumers paying for content (with either dollars or eyeballs) is their main source of income. But for musicians, most of their money comes from playing live shows. So Spotify can be much more relaxed about revenue than HBO.

Or t-shirts!

https://cdm.link/2019/12/tshirts-sell-spotify-doesnt/

It also costs a good deal less for a band to put out an album than it does to make a season of game of thrones.

And an album provides far more recurring revenue than a movie does. I’ve listened to my favorite albums hundreds of times. I’ve watched my favorite television shows twice, three times at most.

What's the "way of Spotify" in your post? One single company toll-gating all content? That doesn't sound like the ideal to me.

Multiple companies having libraries of essentially all content. I can choose between Spotify, Apple Music, whatever Google rebrands their product to every month, etc.

They seem to have a pretty open api so I'm not sure there's actually any reverse engineering going on. They even allow you to build an app that streams audio in sync with the Spotify app. So it doesn't look they are violating anything in terms of functionality. They might be forced to change their name though (just guessing)

https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/

https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/ios/

Those aren’t REST APIs to gather data about songs or your history. They are native APIs to control Spotify app on that machine etc.

I think a fair amount of their business relies on gathering data from people and recommending music. They don’t let 3rd parties to do that.

Perhaps, but they also have APIs for song data and user listening preferences. It's actually pretty impressive how accessible their platform is to developers.

[1] https://developer.spotify.com/discover/#recommendations

I imagine that as long as these don’t give non-paying users access to premium features Spotify don’t mind.

Any Snapchat client, however, can save snaps. So to ensure none of them does, only the official client should be available.

Snapchat and Spotify have very different kinds of business models.

Also https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot and https://github.com/hrkfdn/ncspot

Don't forget Mopidy!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21867180

Been using this for a while on a media center RPI3.

https://github.com/dtcooper/raspotify

Thanks for taking the time to share :)