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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by 1_player on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:13AM (#21524244)
> physical escape key

I'm happy we VIM users have been loud enough to get the most important key back. :-)

I know there's Ctrl-[ but it's 20 years of muscle memory to retrain, and I don't want to do that.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by Tankenstein on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:30AM (#21524452)
I really recommend rebinding caps lock to escape. macOS lets you do that natively in keyboard setting nowadays. Still muscle memory to relearn, of course.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mooncake on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:43AM (#21524615)
I got used to capslock in less than a day when I got MBP. I recommend BetterTouchTool to remove the faux escape key and replace it with something as annoying as "Previous track".

After listening to the same track for a few hours it really stuck.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by olalonde on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:40AM (#21526085)
Many of us remapped Caps Lock to Ctrl years ago. I know there's a way to use it for both but it's not smooth because it adds a firing delay.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by nothrabannosir on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:46AM (#21524657)
But you can't rebind esc to anything (natively), so you lose caps lock. Am I the only one who declares constants and envvars in capitals? And how do people write SQL? With their elbow on the shift key?
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by Zarel on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:52AM (#21525482)
I've always just typed constants and SQL with my pinky on the left Shift key. It feels easier than having to toggle Caps Lock all the time.

In situations where I'm excited and messaging my friends to yell, I've typed entire sentences mostly holding down Left Shift. After some experimentation, it looks like even for normal sentence capitalization, I never use Right Shift unless I'm typing one-handed.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by PascLeRasc on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:30PM (#21531448)
I wonder if there's a way to configure a double-press of left Shift to enable Caps Lock, like we're used to on phone keyboards.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by simonklitj on Thursday November 14, 2019 @05:54AM (#21534444)
Seems like Karabiner can handle that: https://github.com/pqrs-org/Karabiner-Elements/issues/346
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by 1_player on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:32AM (#21525222)
I have Karabiner Elements configured to toggle CapsLock with the LShift+RShift combination. Pretty handy, and unlikely to ever hit it accidentally.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by throwaway333444 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:04AM (#21524890)
The new versions of sql don’t require capital letters on all the keywords. :p

More seriously color syntax highlighting works far better than capitalizing almost everything in sight. I’d recommend dropping the caps convention.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by dharmab on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:24AM (#21525119)
Caps for envvars is not a cosmetic convention, it's a style convention to indicate if a variable was sourced from the shell/parent/sourced file vs an internal definition.

Caps for constants is a long standing convention in many style guides and standard libraries.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by throwaway333444 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:04PM (#21531251)
You appear to be referring to shell scripts. I do not have an opinion on shell script capitalization. However, my opinion on capital keywords in SQL is that it is a relic of an older time when it was used to help visual parsing of the query.

Going further I’m of the opinion that color syntax highlighting does that job far better thus rendering the capital convention obsolete.

Note: you may have a different opinion than me and if you do the laws of the code formatting holy war demand that I assert that you’d be wrong.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by jcranberry on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:52AM (#21525478)
acronyms?
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by Analemma_ on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:05AM (#21525647)
Karabiner Elements is free and will let you bind Esc to Caps Lock. It actually allows general remapping for instance I use a Microsoft Sculpt keyboard with my Mac and have that stupid menu key remapped to be a second Option.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by swlkr on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:06AM (#21525654)
I stopped using caps in SQL a few years ago, it changed my life for the better
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by tnorthcutt on Thursday November 14, 2019 @09:44AM (#21535708)
Using Karabiner, I have caps lock mapped to escape, and shift+caps lock toggles caps lock.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by markus_zhang on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:09PM (#21528124)
Yeah I SHIFT everything capital letters. Feel better than Capslock. Not a Mac user but I wish my laptop has semi-full size keyboard (that includes everything excluding the number pad), but that's too big for laptops I guess :(
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by dharmab on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:22AM (#21525095)
I either hold down shift for short vars or use the vim uppercase motion. After a variable is declared then I use autocomplete.

SQL does not have to be written in uppercase generally. If you care, use an autoformatter.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by notJim on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:32PM (#21526853)
Best move is to bind `jj` to escape.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by djtriptych on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:47PM (#21532871)
I’ve been doing this, as prompted by being assigned a touchstrip MacBook at my last job.

Have to say I was able to retrain pretty quickly. jj is now my first instinct even on full-sized keyboards. I now think it’s really an improvement. All about staying on that home row as much as possible..

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by rikkus on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:48PM (#21529375)
Except that doesn’t work in every other app that doesn’t understand vi keys.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by 1_player on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:33AM (#21524491)
Caps Lock is already my Ctrl key, I don't want to get cramps everytime I press Ctrl-C.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by djtriptych on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:45PM (#21532863)
What kind of monster doesn’t map Caps Lock to CTRL??
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by CGamesPlay on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:04AM (#21524896)
I’ve only been using vim for about 10 years but I’m pretty sure I’ve hit escape less than a few thousand times in those years. One of the first things I did was imap jk <Esc> and it turns out that’s really all I need Escape for (Ctrl-C is goto to return to normal mode)...
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by ActorNightly on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @06:07PM (#21530771)
You shouldn't be happy that they added that back, you should be pissed that they took it out in the first place, well knowing how many developers use Mac.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by appleiigs on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:12PM (#21529625)
I think it's more like Excel users have been loud enough. Esc is very important for Excel.