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Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by snowwrestler on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @08:52AM (#21523946)
11 years ago I bought a 15” MacBook Pro, the first model year with the unibody design. I’m still using it almost every day for web browsing, watching videos, editing documents, etc.

In 2008, it cost $2,400. The new 16” released today costs... $2,400.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by LUmBULtERA on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:03AM (#21524112)
So after inflation, the new version is about 20% cheaper and a lot more powerful? Yes, I get that you can do every day web browsing/watching videos/document editing, but that's not really the point of this machine.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by tristor on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:02AM (#21524097)
Which means they took a reduction in margin to keep the price the same. Prices otherwise have risen, because of inflation. Check an inflation calculator and then you’ll be overjoyed Apple has a commitment to maintaining pricing standards for its products.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by lm28469 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:12AM (#21524226)
Meh, it's just a matter of efficiency, the bulk prices they get from manufacturers, the fact that they're basically using the same assembly lines for 10 years, with the same suppliers &.

TV got much much cheaper in the last 10 years too and that's not because manufacturer cut their margins, mass production + mature tech + price/perf going down = price stagnates or drops.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by vuln on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:23AM (#21524358)
TV's became a lot cheaper because they are 'Smart" all these companies are now subsidizing the TV cost because they are data mining and selling off your information.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mikestew on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:39PM (#21526971)
The first plasma TV I bought was 42" and $2400. It was replaced a few years ago by a 62" plasma that has a tenth of the bezel, weighs at least half as much, and cost $800. There is no network hardware in either device.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by dijit on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:55PM (#21527173)
Name please. I’ve been looking for such a device.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mikestew on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:22PM (#21529055)
A Samsung from Costco that I am sure is no longer available, which is why it was probably at Costco. Costco's order archive doesn't go back far enough for me to find the model #, sorry.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by lm28469 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:27AM (#21524411)
Ok, then let's say, GPUs, CPUs, screen panels, hdd/ssd &c. I mean, does anyone believe apple is giving up margin to absorb inflation ?
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by tristor on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:53AM (#21525492)
Yes, I stated as such. I don’t work at Apple, but I am a Product Manager. Pricing is a critical part of product market segmentation. Apple’s pricing is a deliberate choice, not an accident, and they absolutely give up margin for volume.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mcv on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:03AM (#21524121)
Yeah, but that extra inch, man!

I agree, though. My old 2011 MBP was fantastic. A few months ago the video card finally died, otherwise I'd still be using it. Modern macbooks barely seem to have any keyboard keys anymore.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by usertrjx on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:55PM (#21527922)
Also have a 17 in. 2011 mbp, There is a workaround to get it working with the on board video bypassing the failing video card, but it doesn't seem like a long term fix.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by mcv on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:51PM (#21529998)
Sounds interesting. Do you have a link where this is explained?

A friend claims I can temporarily fix my video card by 'baking' it, whatever that is.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by usertrjx on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @06:12PM (#21530817)
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by woutr_be on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:56PM (#21532384)
I recently threw my 2010-2011 15" MacBook Pro out of the door, I actually couldn't believe how chunky and heavy it was, it was super weird to hold it. I actually still worked, although a bit slow, and the battery would only last for about 30 minutes, but still worked.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by TMWNN on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:40AM (#21542522)
>11 years ago I bought a 15” MacBook Pro, the first model year with the unibody design. I’m still using it almost every day for web browsing, watching videos, editing documents, etc.

You are very fortunate; mine got hit with the EM209 issue twice. An AASP told me that it almost inevitably affects the 2008 and 2009 models.

Apple did improve the model, though. The mid-2012 non-Retina model I'm typing on is seven years old and going strong, albeit with one keyboard repair (something that also affected my 2008 model twice).

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by izolate on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:12PM (#21526558)
I have the same 15” from late 2008 sitting in storage at home. Surprised you’re still using it! What OS version?

Sometimes I like to look at the price of Apple stock in 2008 and wonder how much money I would have today if I had instead bought 2.5k USD worth of shares in 2008 instead of the laptop - it’s depressing.

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by yoz-y on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @04:22PM (#21529740)
I'm using a 15" from mid 2009 every day still, it's on Mojave (with dos1dude's patch). Some software starts to flake out but it's still perfectly usable. (i need a custom homebrew patch because all new binaries require architecture beyond Penryn)
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by twobat on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:14PM (#21527379)
Give or take: it's x10 today.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by dpedu on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:52PM (#21527879)
This isn't correct. The late 2008 Macbook Pro base price was $1,999 [1]. The new 16" base price is $2,400 [2].

[1] https://lowendmac.com/2008/15-macbook-pro-late-2008/

[2] https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/16-inch

Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by snowwrestler on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:06PM (#21528868)
My processor speed is 2.53, so based on your [1], I must have bought the $2,500 model. But I remember getting some kind of Black Friday deal on it; that's how I know it's about 11 years old.
Re:16-inch MacBook Pro by ebg13 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:06AM (#21524147)
And my Quadra 950 cost three times that in 1992 dollars.