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Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by t34543 on Thursday November 07, 2019 @09:28AM (#21473445)
This is a terrible idea. Some people have no choice but to fly. Say what you want but air travel is efficient.
Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by tonyedgecombe on Thursday November 07, 2019 @11:00AM (#21474332)
Frequent and cheap air travel is a recent phenomenon, we can abandon it without going back to the Stone Age.
Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by twic on Thursday November 07, 2019 @04:58PM (#21477754)
Who has no choice but to fly three or more times a year? Do they really have no choice?

I am reminded of an acquaintance of mine who once told me he had no choice but to drive, because he lived in a little village with one bus a day, but commuted into London. What he had overlooked is that he'd chosen to live in this village.

Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by MauranKilom on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:36AM (#21474090)
Pretty sure it doesn't take a literal ton of fuel to move me across Europe in a train. In an airplane, it does.
Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by hodgesrm on Thursday November 07, 2019 @02:17PM (#21476343)
Depends on the plane and the load factor. Assuming a conservative 80 mpg per seat a flight from Moscow to London would consume the following to move your tail between locations:

1554 miles / (80 miles/gallon) * 6.8 lbs/gallon = 132 lbs

I was actually a bit surprised how little it is. It gets better in newer aircraft assuming all seats are taken.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft#Mediu...

Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by t34543 on Thursday November 07, 2019 @12:12PM (#21475028)
Time is more valuable.
Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by esotericn on Thursday November 07, 2019 @01:51PM (#21476082)
Indeed it is.

There'll be time after us.

Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by criddell on Thursday November 07, 2019 @01:55PM (#21476134)
You aren't against pricing in more of the externalities though, right?

For example, a round trip flight between NY and London is said to melt 3 cubic meters of arctic ice per passenger. So it wouldn't be unreasonable for airlines to be required to offset that in some way?

If so, then we just disagree on how to structure the tax but mostly agree on the need to reduce damaging flights.

Re:Aviation Is on a Low-Carbon Flight Path by baot on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:05PM (#21479667)
What remarkable luck they were born after planes were invented!