Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by swarnie_ on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:31PM
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I find the idea of a serious legal professional having to read through those threads on WSB actually makes me happy.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by codyb on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @05:51PM
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r/WSB seems to be a Wall Street 4chan and it's definitely pretty funny reading through some of the threads.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by rb666 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @04:40AM
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4chan is a degenerate pile of nazi dung, most of the time. WSB is mostly innocent fun.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by dgellow on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:01AM
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4chan is more than just /pol.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by n0rbwah on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:47AM
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/pol has leaked all over though
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by swarnie_ on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:43AM
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Spoken like someone who hasn't visited since 2015.
/pol/ and /b/ are only two boards out of about 80
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by kpU8efre7r on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:21PM
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That subreddit cracks me up more than the rest of Reddit combined.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by boopk on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @03:31PM
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Guhranteed
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by ryandrake on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:05PM
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If you try to sign up for options (or margin) trading on any brokerage, none of them will let you do it unless you affirmatively confirm that you understand that: not only can you lose your ass trading derivatives, but you can lose asses that you don’t currently have and you can lose asses that you didn't even know exist.
Doesn’t RobinHood have these disclosures and gates?
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by mikestew on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:40PM
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There is no requirement that you understand anything except how to check that checkbox that says, “yeah, yeah, I promise I read the PDF you sent. Let me trade da options!!!”
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by perl4ever on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:04PM
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Some brokers have different levels of option trading privileges, and require you to attest to a certain amount of experience to get to the highest.
I'm not sure if there are any consequences to lying about your experience, but in principle, you are claiming certain facts in writing, not just saying you read a disclaimer or educational material.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by superfrank on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:44PM
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Yes they do. In my uneducated opinion, legally, it seems both are responsible for the money.
Whether RH goes after them is a totally different story though. You can't squeeze blood from a rock.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by icedchai on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:58PM
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You basically fill out a form and check a couple of boxes. It's about a simple as opening a Facebook account. This is not much of a deterrent.
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by nodesocket on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @05:41PM
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Let's say the user is able to profit with the options, quickly requests a transfer to their bank account and it completes. Can't Robinhood withdraw the money back from the users bank account claiming fraud?
Re:Robinhood Traders Discovered a Glitch That Gave Them ‘Inf...
by KnMn on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @03:17PM
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Very important context. Thank you.
1) The user /u/ControlTheNarrative (CTN) made plenty of posts before losing the money where he made it very clear he knew exactly what he was doing. He had a post where he spelled out exactly how to gain the extra leverage and that his "personal risk tolerance" meant he could handle 25:1 leverage. Additionally, his response after the fact was something along the lines of "once I earn another $2000, I plan on doing this again". This kid didn't just click a wrong button and end up with the extra leverage, he was well aware of what he was doing.
2) Take this one with a major grain of salt, but based CTN's comments in the original posts and some comments by other users, it seems like this might not have been the first time CTN has used this exact trick to blow up an account. When the video was first posted, multiple commenters mentioned that he'd done it before and some of CTN's comments after the fact seem to hint at that. Again, take this with a huge grain of salt since I have nothing concrete to back that up.
The last time RH was in the news for some user losing way more money than they had (IR0NYMAN) I actually felt for the user a little bit and can understand why RH (supposedly) didn't go after the money after the fact. IR0NYMAN was creating box spreads, which can be a legitimate strategy, although they are very hard to find a situation where you can make money with them. That user stupidly didn't understand RH's rules around options exercise which is how he got screwed, but had he been able to hold all his contracts to exp (like European options allow) he actually would have been fine.
I can understand RH writing off IR0NYMAN's debt because it didn't seem like the user truly understood what he was doing, but this one feels different, IMO.