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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by cyborgx7 on Friday October 25, 2019 @06:40AM (#21353592)
So glad this turned out to be a joke in the second paragraf. The first is very believable. I've definitely encountered people who would write something like it unironically.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by mattigames on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:38AM (#21353962)
Yeah, thanks for saying that in English, I wouldn't have been able to understand you in any other language.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by cyborgx7 on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:49AM (#21354021)
da nicht für
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by tempodox on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:59AM (#21354092)
syntax error
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by chme on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:55AM (#21355593)
Excel and other spreadsheet software products localize their function names.

So people learn to use those in their native language which is great.

But if they need to use the same software with a different language setting, because they move or work abroad, they have to relearn all those function names, which sucks...

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by tofflos on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:41AM (#21356092)
It's not great even in the learning scenario. First I have to Google how to solve the problem and then I have to Google how to translate the function names to Swedish.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by jacquesm on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:12PM (#21357661)
> Excel and other spreadsheet software products localize their function names.

And, most annoyingly, their thousands and decimal separators. That has tripped me up countless times.

100,991 vs 100.991.

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by mattigames on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:01AM (#21354104)
python --lang=german main.py

shivers

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by MR4D on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:48AM (#21354882)
Basic would be fun though...

10 drucken 'Hallo, Welt!" 20 gehe zu 10

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by acje on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:45AM (#21356130)
10 drucken 'Hallo, Welt!" 20 gehe zu 10 aber schnell

-o3

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by skykooler on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:46AM (#21354847)
Think it would be --lang=deutsch. Gotta internationalize the command-line flags too!
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by CodeCube on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:15AM (#21355142)
I think you mean, --sprache=deutsch
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by codetrotter on Friday October 25, 2019 @01:02PM (#21356955)
You are all being silly.

Obviously we would translate the name of the command itself, and the language would be implied

  riesenschlange main.py
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Y_Y on Friday October 25, 2019 @01:57PM (#21357515)
Frankfurt-am-Main.py
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by tempodox on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:42AM (#21356107)
Absolutely. If we do localization of UI texts, the command line options should be included :)
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Cyph0n on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:20AM (#21355858)
Imagine the CLI...
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by alien_ on Friday October 25, 2019 @12:03PM (#21356306)
It's already there, I've often seen console output with translated error messages. Helpful for the users but not of much use to developers, unless using error codes as well
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by fisian on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:02PM (#21357563)
Scala has a german version: https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2017/04/01/announcing-skala....

Release date is 1st of april though

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by rusk on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:54AM (#21354936)
Haut.py
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by chme on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:44AM (#21355442)
More like 'Haupt.py'. ('Haut' is 'skin') But in German that alone would translate back to 'head.py', so you might want to give some more context to it like 'Hauptdatei.py' ('main file.py').
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by amenod on Friday October 25, 2019 @06:50AM (#21353675)
TBH, I didn't get the joke until I read your comment. A small "/s" at the end wouldn't hurt.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by skrebbel on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:41AM (#21354372)
To be frank, "/s" would have totally ruined it for everyone else.

I'm assuming that you simply didn't read past the first paragraph? (That's fine, I bet we all do that way too often here) I mean, I have a hard time believing that you really can't tell that a post that states that everybody uses FORTRAN isn't serious.

I care because HN has a way of ruining satire and sarcasm this way. These are only the delightful stylistic devices that they are when you don't say that it's satire (resp sarcasm). I truly wish we'd all "/s" a little less, not more :-)

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Stratoscope on Friday October 25, 2019 @01:39PM (#21357350)
I have run into this a few times when I've posted a link (where it seemed amusing and relevant to a discussion) to this classic video of Australian Senator Bob Collins discussing an environmental mishap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

Invariably, someone replies with a comment like "People should be aware that this is not actually an Australian senator, it is the comedian John Clarke impersonating one."

Every. Single. Time.

As if it wouldn't be obvious after watching the first few minutes of the video!

What ever happened to the fun of not realizing something is satire until you're partway into it?

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by warp on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:51AM (#21354443)
I'm sad to admit I downvoted after the first paragraph. I was glad HN let me undo that after I read the second :)

(also, hey skrebbel! :)

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by skrebbel on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:03PM (#21357580)
small world!
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Torwald on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:27AM (#21354670)
> To be frank, "/s" would have totally ruined it for everyone else.

Yes and no. Here on HN I see it everyday: good on-topic jokes get downvoted.

I suspect this happens because when people are in "HN mode" there comes a sort of earnestness into their state that makes it hard to detect other tonalities.

P.S. I needed the FORTRAN bit until it dawned on me…

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by brlewis on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:39AM (#21354776)
We need a committee to form standards for sarcasm indicator use in various contexts.
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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by journalctl on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:31AM (#21355307)
I don’t think it’s fair to assume that there’s a higher incidence of autism on HN than elsewhere (bad social skills can also occur in neurotypical people), but hot damn does it really bug me that HN has such a hard time with snark.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by shantly on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:42AM (#21355431)
It's not just snark—try dropping a colloquial "all" or "none" in a context where that's clearly what it is, and watch ten people rush to correct you that "well, technically..."

Or even carefully qualified statements! I think folks here drop "most" and "typically" and similar words as they read. You have to write poorly, qualifying everything three times and disavowing a bunch of stuff you obviously aren't saying or even implying anyway, to make sure you don't get a bunch of pointless comments.

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by therealcamino on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:29PM (#21357847)
Technically correct is the best kind of correct!
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by shrimp_emoji on Saturday October 26, 2019 @12:29PM (#21364599)
I was using autism colloquially. :3 (The irony)
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by chipotle_coyote on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:16PM (#21357712)
...hot damn does it really bug me that HN has such a hard time with snark.

Yeah, I've noticed that when I get sarcastic or snarky, it's very often an invitation to being downvoted. I can't tell if it's because people don't get the sarcasm or snarkiness, get it but are offended that I'm using it at all (especially without an "/s"), or are offended that I'm being snarky about [insert sacred technolibertarian cow here]. :)

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by amenod on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:54AM (#21354461)
No, not really, I read the whole post. And the FORTRAN reference was weird, but there are weirder things people post (and believe), and when writing, people do make mistakes. Thinking back, it should have been the clue, but it wasn't. And judging by the other answers, I am not the only one who was fooled by the tone.

That said, if you feel like `/s` is ruining the sarcasm for you, the solution is pretty simple. GreaseMonkey [0] should be able to remove it very easily, while adding it would be _a bit_ more challenging.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:30AM (#21354691)
> No, not really, I read the whole post. And the FORTRAN reference was weird, but there are weirder things people post (and believe)

True. I'm sometimes a source for similarly controversial statements. However, the following line should suffice to indicate the facetiousness of the post:

> This is the same reason that everyone uses FORTRAN.

Everyone does not use FORTRAN, and in fact it is so uncommonly used that it is ridiculous anyone would think otherwise. There are probably quite a lot of people in this industry who've never even heard of FORTRAN.

This is a common form of sarcasm in English, to counter an argument (programming languages should be English-only because there'd be too much fragmentation otherwise) by presenting the same argument in the context of something obviously untrue (that's why everyone uses FORTRAN).

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by amenod on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:17AM (#21355163)
Did you read my comment? I also said:

> ...and when writing, people do make mistakes.

Maybe he meant Python, who knows? If only there was a way to signal you are being sarcastic to avoid misunderstandings. Oh wait... /s

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by monoideism on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:57AM (#21354482)
"Fortunately, programmers collectively decided to all use the same language."

That zinger didn't tip it off to you?

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by temp1999 on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:01PM (#21357551)
Totally went over my head. I thought he was talking about programming languages uses the same language for their keywords.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by cyborgx7 on Friday October 25, 2019 @06:57AM (#21353731)
Pointing out it was indeed a joke, was part of the reason I wrote the comment in the first place.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by amenod on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:47AM (#21354405)
Just to be clear - I think your parent should have put '/s' at the end, not you. :)
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by nickpeterson on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:37AM (#21355363)
I once worked with a person in an ecommerce department who was annoyed that a German website used German instead of English.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by gre on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:44AM (#21355447)
Wow I stopped reading after the first paragraph and almost missed the joke. I have other things to do...
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by minikites on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:20AM (#21353849)
That's one of the biggest problems with sarcasm/irony in casual writing. There's always someone who misunderstands and treats it as serious. This problem is amplified by the number of eyes a typical internet comment receives. It's a major way people are radicalized by internet communities. There's always a proportion of members who are being "ironically" sexist/racist/discriminatory but eventually people take it seriously, the ironic commenters are pushed out of the community and presto, you have 4chan and worse.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by mkr-hn on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:17AM (#21355832)
I watched this happen in /r/TumblrInAction. Over the years it got more mean spirited and fell for more obvious trolls/satire as people less committed to the cause of disrespecting self-identity moved on. Now it's all "lol attack helicopters" and cruelty, and half the former regulars are now queer leftist furries.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Supermancho on Friday October 25, 2019 @11:21AM (#21355864)
I loath the cheap humor aspect to forum commentary. It is hurtful as noise or incidentally inflammatory, as you mentioned. There is no way to eliminate it, but that isnt the point. I dont promote pure misdirection.