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Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by kjaftaedi on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @10:29AM (#21323967)
It's sad how obvious this is. Possibly even more obvious than the insider trading at intel prior to the spectre/meltdown public release.

This will be forever the legacy of Eric Holder, the man who changed the justice department policy to go after smaller 'fines' as settlements instead of prosecuting crimes.. only because of the simple fact that fines are easy to win, and criminal cases can be lost.

Justice is now escapable because it's been deemed "too difficult to pursue"

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by 50656E6973 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:14AM (#21324547)
>changed the justice department policy to go after smaller 'fines' as settlements instead of prosecuting crimes.. only because of the simple fact that fines are easy to win, and criminal cases can be lost.

This policy change could also perhaps be attributed to lobbyists seeking to maximize profits and minimize risks for corporate clients who are knowingly breaking the law.

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by ericmay on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:23PM (#21327566)
Sure, which is the fault of the people and the government, as far as I’m concerned. If an elected official is corrupted or doing something we disagree with, it’s our job to fix it.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by AriaMinaei on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:52PM (#21327255)
> On March 6, 2013, Holder testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the size of large financial institutions has made it difficult for the Justice Department to bring criminal charges when they are suspected of crimes, because such charges can threaten the existence of a bank and therefore their interconnectedness may endanger the national or global economy. "Some of these institutions have become too large," Holder told the Committee, "It has an inhibiting impact on our ability to bring resolutions that I think would be more appropriate.

> Prosecution rates against crimes by large financial institutions are at 20-year lows. Holder has also endorsed the notion that prosecutors, when deciding to pursue white-collar crimes, should give special consideration to "collateral consequences" of bringing charges against large corporate institutions, as outlined in a 1999 memorandum by Holder. Nearly a decade later Holder, as head of the Department of Justice, put this into practice and has demonstrated the weight "collateral consequences" has by repeatedly sought and reached deferred prosecution and non-prosecution agreements and settlements with large financial institutions such as J.P. Morgan Chase, HSBC, Countrywide Mortgage, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, and others where the institution pays a fine or penalty but faces no criminal charges and admits no wrongdoing. Whereas in the previous decade the Bush administration's Department of Justice often sought criminal charges against individuals of large institutions regardless of "collateral consequences" such as cases involving Enron, Adelphia Communications Corporation, Tyco International, and others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder#Criminal_investiga...

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by doctorpangloss on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:40PM (#21327735)
This is missing the perspective of just how much a disaster Obama inherited in 2008.

Also I get that it's Wikipedia, but the comparison to Bush is ridiculous. The Enron story is a long one. Here's Gray Davis's perspective on exactly what it means that the Bush DoJ "sought criminal charges:"

> "I inherited the energy deregulation scheme which put us all at the mercy of the big energy producers. We got no help from the Federal government. In fact, when I was fighting Enron and the other energy companies, these same companies were sitting down with Vice President Cheney to draft a national energy strategy."

Furthermore the whole reason Holder is using the term "collateral consequences" instead of "collateral damage" is because that term was used by Dick Cheney and the press to describe why he does not care about civilian deaths in Afghanistan and later Iraq. It would be a stretch, but surely the lack of investigations into no-bid war contracts like Halliburton's had as much to do with their "collateral consequences" on military operations as it would on their paychecks.

Obama inherited multiple quagmires due to disregard of the consequences of criminal justice policy.

Normal people will never be on the wrong side of a banking fraud, except if their bank goes out of business. What is justice there?

So while I believe bad people should go to jail, I sympathize with Holder's point of view.

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by ahi on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:17PM (#21328100)
This is a terrible take. For 8 years, whenever Obama or Holder were asked to make things right at the expense of their future employers, they proclaimed just how powerless they were. The White House and the DOJ have the power to squash wall street like bugs, and make "normal people" whole. They CHOSE not to.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by Akinato on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:48PM (#21325827)
People that are so rich/connected that they can become "too difficult to pursue" seems like a good step towards becoming Gotham.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by geggam on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @01:20PM (#21326211)
When you reach a critical mass of people with nothing to lose the wealth will balance again, usually through violence.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by dhimes on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @05:01PM (#21328476)
I visited Cuba this year. I can confirm.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by werm82 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:20AM (#21324633)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the job of the SEC to investigate the insider trading, and then call in the DOJ if they deem it necessary to file criminal charges?
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by calibas on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:34AM (#21324820)
I'd like to defend Eric Holder. It's no secret what he does or who he works for. He's a lawyer that works for the big banks and other powerful industries, his job is literally to keep them out of legal trouble.

We should be pointing the finger at the people who knew all these things and still put him in charge of the justice department. We should also be pointing the finger at the ones who have the power to change these policies now, but fail to do so.

At this point Holder is just a scapegoat.

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by colpabar on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:47AM (#21325027)
Nah, doing that might actually prevent things like this from happen, so we should all downvote you instead.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by calibas on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:00PM (#21326744)
Now we've got William Barr who has worked for Pillsbury and Kirkland & Ellis. You know, the exact same groups who represent scumbags like Epstein and BP...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkland_%26_Ellis

Meanwhile, I'm some kind of "radical" for even pointing this out...

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by ineedasername on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:32AM (#21324803)
Not just too difficult, but reinforcing the idea that with enough money, you can buy your way out of trouble.
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by nullc on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:12PM (#21327445)
> Justice is now escapable because it's been deemed "too difficult to pursue"

Only for entities which are wealthy enough to effectively defend themselves against the awesome power of federal prosecution!

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by naringas on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:35AM (#21324837)
"too big to prosecute"??
Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by excursionist on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:38PM (#21328262)
> Justice is now escapable because it's been deemed "too difficult to pursue"

Only if you're rich enough.

Re:Equifax securities fraud class action [pdf] by mtgx on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:08AM (#21324460)
No, Eric holder's legacy will be not going after bankers because that could hurt the economy. His solution was to rather leave the criminals in place instead of suffering any sort of short term pain (if that).