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Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by aww_dang on Monday October 21, 2019 @10:46PM (#21319950)
I skimmed the comments here. Then I skimmed the article.

Getting out there and developing the sites/apps you want to see will bring change. Be proactive. Be the change you want to see.

The article is about a lawyer arguing for 'justice' through highly politicized language. YMMV, but I don't think "The Internet of creation" was hindered for want of lawyers, lobbyists or regulations.

Similarly, sitting on the sidelines and impotently lamenting the state of the Internet today doesn't help. While this isn't detrimental in the direct sense, it is detrimental if the prevailing belief is that changing the current paradigm is impossible.

Creators are still active. New niches for content are still emerging. Entrenched sites/apps are not immortal. Nothing is impossible. It all starts with individual action, one developer at a time. Don't become hypnotized by the bigness of institutions. We've seen solo developers release sea changing software before. Be the change you want to see.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by eitland on Monday October 21, 2019 @11:43PM (#21320209)
> Getting out there and developing the sites/apps you want to see will bring change. Be proactive. Be the change you want to see.

I now have my own stupid blog again[0] trying to add some good old fun and weirdness to the web along with some hopefully useful or thought-provoking posts in between.

I wish we could have a thread (possibly even a monthly thread here, like who is hiring) where people could mention their blogs, web sites etc.

Back when Google+ arrived we did that and I followed a number of interesting people from HN based on that I think.

Maybe it could help us rebuild a mini web of interesting blogs, websites etc.

Me, I'd be particularly interested in linking to pages related to electronics, programming, outdoors (but not slick "travel" blogs) etc. A little politics OK, but not much.

[0]: link in profile should anyone be interested.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by nathell on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @07:28AM (#21322418)
I've recently recreated my personal site and blogs[0] using a custom-tailored static site generator[1]. It felt good, like in the era of the Internet of creation.

[0]: http://danieljanus.pl [1]: https://github.com/nathell/nhp

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by otter-in-a-suit on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @09:22AM (#21323297)
I've hosted my own website[0] and blog[1] for a while, but objectively, publishing a single article to medium - which i usually loathe - drastically increased my visibility.

Using DDG to search for my name, my website shows up as 3rd result, whereas on Google, the only reason I'm even on the first page is because I was published on Towards Data Science. So using one of the big players was the only realistic way to get some exposure for my tech-rants. It's a sad reality for me.

[0]: https://chollinger.com/ [1]: https://chollinger.com/blog/

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by doesitmakesound on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @08:15AM (#21322744)
I created a new personal blog site too! The Bloomer's Guide to the Multiverse:

Lifebased.org

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by davidjnelson on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:15AM (#21320335)
> I wish we could have a thread (possibly even a monthly thread here, like who is hiring) where people could mention their blogs, web sites etc.

I dig the sentiment. Isn’t that what Show HN and posting links to blog posts does though?

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by eitland on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:05AM (#21320770)
> I dig the sentiment. Isn’t that what Show HN and posting links to blog posts does though?

Thanks!

The reason I want a semiregular thread is because given the amount of work that goes into many show HNs I guess most people here are wary of posting their blogs as "Show HN".

Posting it in a "Ask HN: who is writing - October 2019" thread might be less scary.

If anyone posts that within a few minutes I'll upvote it (I have enough points so I don't need to start another valuable thread for that.)

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by kickscondor on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:35AM (#21320415)
Occasionally there is a thread for this (about every 6 months) and it also happens in the comments spontaneously (such as on this post.) Here's another example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20362319

I try to compile the sites that people list here: https://www.kickscondor.com/hrefhunt/ I will obviously be mining this thread. ;D

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by Schwolop on Friday October 25, 2019 @01:12AM (#21352095)
I write very irregularly, but on a variety of topics around engineering and management. I wrote an article today: http://www.drtomallen.com/blog/satificing-a-powerful-tool-fo...
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by indigochill on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:04AM (#21321027)
I have a quirky and sparse personal page, but people are welcome to look at it if they want to. I'm playing with a concept of presenting a personal site as interactive (non?)fiction as an alternative to the expectations we have of website UI. It may be counterproductive, but it's playful. And open source!

https://maxsond.github.io/

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by eitland on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:07AM (#21321034)
Nice!
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by chewxy on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:46AM (#21320458)
Is the list supposed to degenerate to noise?

edit: also add my blog! https://blog.chewxy.com

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by eitland on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:21AM (#21320845)
> Is the list supposed to degenerate to noise?

Happens both on Safari on my iPad as well as on my Android phone with Firefox mobile.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by browie on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @01:41AM (#21320671)
Why does everything go to shit as I scroll?
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by emersion on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:29AM (#21321389)
This reminds me of openring [1], which is a little box you add to your blog with links to latest articles on blogs you follow.

[1]: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/openring

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by nicolapcweek94 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @09:09AM (#21323178)
Also from sircmpwn, there is a mailing list called free-writers-club [0] with quite a few introductory posts and blog links... post yours, everyone!

  Hello and welcome! This mailing list is for authors of technical blogs
  and other publications to support each other's work. Feel free to post
  questions, drafts for review, and so on.
[0]: https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/free-writers-club
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by cameronbrown on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:45AM (#21321464)
The idea of a blogring is great - we need more of that imo.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by eitland on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @05:04AM (#21321568)
It is on my wishlist for my blog but for now I haven't gotten around to it.

Also planned: some kind of list of the latest pinboard.in entries from certain tags.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by jjjbokma on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @10:59AM (#21324347)
I started a tumblelog [0] a few months ago. And of course I wrote the static site generator for it myself :-) [1]. I like it, it reminds me of the Internet nearly 2 decades ago.

[0] http://plurrrr.com/

[1] https://github.com/john-bokma/tumblelog

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by jjjbokma on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:06AM (#21324439)
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by cft on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:50AM (#21320963)
> Develop apps

For locked down duopoly (85% and growing Google actually) walled garden, that has telemetry for every app launch, install, uninstall, access to every single push notification in plain text and can boot your "niche" app from the Play Store on a whim... Most of those newly connected to the internet are on locked down "smartphones" and not on general purpose computers anymore.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by aww_dang on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:23AM (#21321089)
Check into progressive webapps. You can utilize homescreen app icon functionality if you add service workers. No more app/play store or walled garden.

For every objection there is a can-do work around.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by krageon on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @05:24AM (#21321676)
"webapps" don't do interesting things that websites cannot do. This person was talking about actual apps, that run on your device, doing app things.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by asjw on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:14AM (#21321319)
They are even more limited then regular apps though...
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by buboard on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:22AM (#21321081)
Don't argue. Build.

Even though i d say that a lot of innovation is stifled by regulatory constraints, the biggest one being: it's too hard to take payments and much harder to pay users. We have the technology to have digital cash on the internet but tax office won't let anyone use it

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by barrkel on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @07:25AM (#21322401)
The Internet makes it too easy to scale up a business and become a monopolist.

The US has a regulatory culture of permitting monopolies as long as they are lawfully gained. I don't think this is right. I also think a sequence of monopolies, each living 5 or 10 years, before being overtaken, is also wrong; just because a monopoly is eventually overtaken doesn't mean consumers must tolerate monopolies at their height.

"Being the change" means limiting maximum size and forcing competition through regulation. That's political. I don't think there's any choice at this point if we want to preserve democracy.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by tannhaeuser on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:33AM (#21321408)
> Be the change you want to see

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21320938

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by dencodev on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:16PM (#21326912)
Shameless self plug but I did a simple site recently to this effect:

http://iwillansweryouremails.com

I like that I'm not tracking anyone, it doesn't require UI/UX, I have little to nothing to gain from it - it's just a human connection. Something fun we might have seen in the early years of the internet.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by midnitewarrior on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @10:03AM (#21323671)
The Internet switched from contribution to consumption with the rise of mobile. Most users' main Internet device is a phone, not ideal for contributing meaningful content, but optimized for scrolling and media consumption.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by rootsudo on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:41AM (#21324923)
This is an excellent way to frame it and why I hate mobile devices.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by raxxorrax on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @06:39AM (#21322109)
As long as it is regulated and sanitized and can be surveilled. Especially the latter is an undeniable fact in my opinion. Although that battle seems to shift to government just not being able to do that as easily, the ambitions were clear as day.

There is still an unlimited amount of content, but the rules have changed significantly. And mostly not in favor of users.

The article offers bad examples, but monetary interests and copyright changed the nature of most content.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by davidjnelson on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:25AM (#21320372)
So true. It’s a mindset issue. Be a maverick. Don’t let big corporations brainwash you. Also, why GitHub is so amazing :-D
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by Moonshooter on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:38AM (#21320915)
>Be the change you want to see.

This is such important advice across so many aspects of life in general! It's easy to support a movement that's already started to to gain momentum. Something I think about still from my college days is actually from a sociology class I took as an easy requirement filler (something to do with gender studies, I forget the name).

Summarized, there's rarely a reward for being the vanguard who blazes the trail. Sometimes you might even be penalized because your methods to break into the limelight were extreme and are now hobbling your movement's mainstream appeal. The class's talking point was that there were women who fought their whole lives for the right to vote but never saw it happen or even begin to happen. But their work served to inspire activists of a later generation who went on to succeed. Sometimes we have to plant a garden knowing we might not see live to see the flowers bloom.

Clearly software is a different beast but we too, as an undustry, have things which are mainstream or valuable now but which once upon a time had only their visionaries to fight for them.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by Kaiyou on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @05:38AM (#21321762)
Usually there are only rewards for problems other people need solved. If you try to solve your own problem, there's nobody but yourself who could give you the reward.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by pacala on Monday October 21, 2019 @11:02PM (#21320010)
Indie movies are a small niche. The creation you talk about is in the same ballpark: it exists, but mostly negligible.