I visited Berlin last year - our taxi driver nearly slammed us head on into a Tram at 40+mph. Scary stuff!

I get the taxi problem but what is the solution do delivery and postal vehicles?

On most pedestrian streets in Europe, delivery vehicles are allowed at particular times.

That's often very early in the morning, but varies according to the street. (One with lots of bars and nightclubs might allow deliveries during the day.)

For example, Copenhagen's main pedestrian streets are restricted to people on foot at all times, except residents at any time, and delivery vehicles between 04:00 and 11:00.

Reserve for them parking lots which don't block bike lanes. Enforce them not parking on bike lanes. When parked there, they are a safety security threat.

Then you'd have to create parking spots and the delivery vehicles would have to be in those spots at specific times of the day? Sounds great for bikes but impractical for the delivery vehicles.

I like how enforcing the law is portrayed as a nice-to-have here and offering to build specialty parking (in a city no less) is a hardship for the benefactors.

Or you could think of it as enforcing the law would kill the businesses in the area, because you're asking them for a huge additional cost.

Loading zones where other cars are aggressively towed. Last mile delivery with cargo bikes.

How do you deliver a pallet of Fruit Loops on a cargo bike to the corner store?

Using a trailer? You can't carry a full pallet, but for a small corner store, 180kg of Fruit Loops (about 350 packages?) might be enough. It's not like they have huge storing space inside anyway.

https://www.fleximodal.fr/pallets

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Basically this problem is absolutely solvable if you actually want to

You don't, you use a dedicated loading zone.

Fruit loops are light. How do you deliver a pallet of bottled water on a bike?

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I find it funny that earlier in another thread I read about how the working conditions in warehouses are terrible. Yet here I see suggestions like this for delivery workers.

Can you imagine working a job like this when it's cold outside and you potentially had ice the night before? And to solve this problem you'd basically reinvent the car/truck.

Why do you consider riding a recumbent bicycle an insurmountable hardship?

In icy conditions, it's likely safer for most citizens to have delivery done by bicycle. They're slower and lower mass compared to a van.

In cold, the delivery person can just add layers. And, they'll be moving more, so in all likelihood, the additional layers required is minimal. It's not like a UPS van is super warm inside - not with the driver constantly opening the doors and hopping in/out.

It simply boils down to priorities. Do we want cheap/easy delivery to merchants or do we want safe pedestrian and bicycle zones for customers. Or, is there a magical balance point in the middle?

I’d honestly vote for cheap easy delivery to merchants first. That being said bikes are important, but not necessarily at the expense of intra-city logistics.

What's so categorically terrible about this? If it's cold you wear warmer clothes, if it's icy you put on studded tires. The point is if you actually wanted to get rid of cars in city centers it would be absolutely doable.

Go cycle around a city, load/unload heavy things for 8 hours in the pissing rain and come back with how it's not terrible.

They don't have to have an 8 hour shift. What about a 6 hour shift with breaks?

So you are telling them to be less productive and/or take less pay?

Seems like if it's that physically taxing they might make slightly more hourly to have the same pay overall. Yes, costs of delivery would go up.

You can't unload a truck to a corner shop from inside the cab anyway.

But you do get back in the nice heated/cooled rain free cab between drop offs to shelter yourself from the elements.

Looks like a small truck to me. You solved nothing.

Also I highly doubt these tiny bicycle tires can handle a pallet of bottled water or beers. They will just get crushed.

How do you deliver eight pallets of bottled water in one hour to eight shops?

By having more than one bike. If we assume 2 km median distance from the re-loading zone to the shop then each bike can easily make 2-3 round trips an hour.

By the way, why is it so important that deliveries get done within an hour?

If in San Francisco: downhill.