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Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by bufferoverflow on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:39AM (#21268924)
Fruit loops are light. How do you deliver a pallet of bottled water on a bike?
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by dagw on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:42AM (#21268938)
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by Mirioron on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @07:59AM (#21269418)
I find it funny that earlier in another thread I read about how the working conditions in warehouses are terrible. Yet here I see suggestions like this for delivery workers.

Can you imagine working a job like this when it's cold outside and you potentially had ice the night before? And to solve this problem you'd basically reinvent the car/truck.

Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by alistairSH on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @10:32AM (#21270744)
Why do you consider riding a recumbent bicycle an insurmountable hardship?

In icy conditions, it's likely safer for most citizens to have delivery done by bicycle. They're slower and lower mass compared to a van.

In cold, the delivery person can just add layers. And, they'll be moving more, so in all likelihood, the additional layers required is minimal. It's not like a UPS van is super warm inside - not with the driver constantly opening the doors and hopping in/out.

It simply boils down to priorities. Do we want cheap/easy delivery to merchants or do we want safe pedestrian and bicycle zones for customers. Or, is there a magical balance point in the middle?

Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by chrischen on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:48AM (#21290916)
I’d honestly vote for cheap easy delivery to merchants first. That being said bikes are important, but not necessarily at the expense of intra-city logistics.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by dagw on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:12AM (#21269508)
What's so categorically terrible about this? If it's cold you wear warmer clothes, if it's icy you put on studded tires. The point is if you actually wanted to get rid of cars in city centers it would be absolutely doable.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by deadbunny on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:55AM (#21269815)
Go cycle around a city, load/unload heavy things for 8 hours in the pissing rain and come back with how it's not terrible.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by triceratops on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @11:52AM (#21271736)
They don't have to have an 8 hour shift. What about a 6 hour shift with breaks?
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by chrischen on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:49AM (#21290921)
So you are telling them to be less productive and/or take less pay?
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by triceratops on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:23PM (#21293245)
Seems like if it's that physically taxing they might make slightly more hourly to have the same pay overall. Yes, costs of delivery would go up.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by icebraining on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:18PM (#21272092)
You can't unload a truck to a corner shop from inside the cab anyway.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by deadbunny on Thursday October 17, 2019 @09:04AM (#21281561)
But you do get back in the nice heated/cooled rain free cab between drop offs to shelter yourself from the elements.
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by bufferoverflow on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @10:22AM (#21270609)
Looks like a small truck to me. You solved nothing.

Also I highly doubt these tiny bicycle tires can handle a pallet of bottled water or beers. They will just get crushed.

Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @07:03AM (#21269056)
How do you deliver eight pallets of bottled water in one hour to eight shops?
Re:Banning cars on SF’s Market Street, once a radical idea, ... by dagw on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @07:31AM (#21269214)
By having more than one bike. If we assume 2 km median distance from the re-loading zone to the shop then each bike can easily make 2-3 round trips an hour.

By the way, why is it so important that deliveries get done within an hour?