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Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:19AM (#21248539)
I can't stress this enough: Use FastMail (and pay for it), it's better than GMail and doesn't pull this kind of shit on you. The post is very alarming, but at least you have a better option when it comes to arguably the most important part of Google, your email.

It's super cheap (I prepaid for two years or something and it came out to less than $3/mo), faster than Gmail and won't kill your life.

EDIT: I hear Protonmail is also good, just use one of the two. They're great.

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by lawn on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:34PM (#21250080)
Also use your own domain. Even if your email provider shuts down or shuts you out, you'll still have access to your domain.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by MockObject on Monday October 14, 2019 @01:47PM (#21250863)
Unless the domain was purchased using Google Domains? Then what happens if the owner's Google account is killed?
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by nyuszika7h on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @09:43AM (#21258238)
Pretty sure Google would be required to allow you to transfer the domain to another registrar.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by NetOpWibby on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @02:42AM (#21256087)
I’ve been self-hosting my email (and for a handful of people) for two years now. Feels great.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:39PM (#21250134)
Yes, this is very important.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by anderspitman on Monday October 14, 2019 @02:03PM (#21251028)
I recently started using Fastmail for a new project I'm working on. The web app might be the snappiest I've ever used. Way better than Gmail. Protonmail is painfully slow in comparison. I'm seriously considering switching everything to Fastmail, but there's always a ton a FUD about surveillance when comparing them to Protonmail. But there's always a lot of FUD thrown at Prontonmail, too. Hard to know how much is true.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by phyzome on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:22AM (#21248561)
Can confirm, I use Fastmail and it is very nice. (Protonmail looks reasonable and popular as well, but I have no direct experience with it.)
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by zirror on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:59AM (#21248960)
Tutanota is also pretty good. Protonmail was also pretty great. (I used them both, currently at Tutanota)
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by aeonian on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:21AM (#21249231)
+1 for Tutanota. Recently switched. It's a breeze to use and far more reliable than I ever found my previous email provider to be.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by catacombs on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:31AM (#21249368)
Fastmail isn't as privacy-safe as other alternatives. I used Fastmail for a while and recently switched to mailfence.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:35AM (#21249431)
In what way?
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by Macha on Monday October 14, 2019 @01:05PM (#21250380)
Australian laws allowing the government to compel backdoors
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by joecool1029 on Monday October 14, 2019 @02:32PM (#21251311)
I weighed this for awhile because it was a concern for me. I finally did end up moving my organization off Google Suite to Fastmail and I haven't looked back.

Australia's government sucks ass, yes. But Fastmail seems focused on its product and has been conveying their positions and opposition to such legislation. Google does not do this, they run Google Suite like it's an automated hobby project. I'm quite certain that it's more likely that our data with Google would be used to provide data sets that could be used for advertising or sold/adapted to state surveillance (sensorvault anyone?). Even if it wasn't, we're still worse off when they arbitrarily suspend accounts and only provide us with outsourced customer service lacking an escalation path that only takes calls overnight.

Fastmail wrote a blog post about the law: https://fastmail.blog/2018/09/10/access-and-assistance-bill/

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by stilley2 on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:35AM (#21249417)
Seconded. Fastmail's support is great. I had some issue trying to sync emails with my laptop that messed up all the dates on my email (I don't remember the details) and fastmail support told me what I was doing wrong and wrote a script to correct all the dates on their server. I was blown away.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by jedberg on Monday October 14, 2019 @01:16PM (#21250505)
I'd like to, but none of the other services offer Priority Inbox. Even if they did, I've spent years training Gmail what is and is not spam. It's nearly perfect now. That would be super hard to replicate.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by nickflood on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:15PM (#21253901)
Outlook.com offers something very similar to priority inbox, and in my experience it works quite well from the get go.

Not telling you it'll definitely work for you, but there is something similar out there.

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by jedberg on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:52PM (#21255398)
Sure but is that really any different than gmail? Both are free services. Also, I'd still have to retrain it.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by pmlnr on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:10AM (#21249097)
- google pay

- google maps

These are the two things I find more or less impossible to replace on android. For Pay, there is no alternative at all. For Maps, there is Osmand, which is good as static map, but not for finding addresses.

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by lucb1e on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:28AM (#21249318)
Google Maps' map data can be replaced by Microsoft/Here/TomTom data, or OSM-based maps (OsmAnd, maps.me). Apple Maps seems to be unavailable outside of iOS, not even through third-party apps or a website, as far as I know.

Mapbox does realtime traffic these days, https://benmaps.fr can show this layer (I haven't found that button in mobile view though, might need to do a pull request), as well as your local traffic authority probably or some other local companies.

Business info can be found through regular search engines, or if that is really difficult, then you can always fall back to google maps every once in a while.

Street view is not available where I live anyway, and Mapillary is doing reasonably. They also have OsmAnd integration. OpenStreetCam is another alternative.

Satellite imagery is not exclusive to google maps either, there are lots of sources for this, and often also plane-shot imagery from your local government. You can configure a layer in OsmAnd. Personally I use Bing Maps most frequently for this (not the app, just bing.com/maps) since it is a lot more smooth/lightweight than the awfully heavy google maps website. (I don't really use sat imagery on mobile anyway.)

Trip recording ("location history" in google) can be done with OsmAnd or many other apps as well. I configured it to automatically turn on when routing: then I have GPS on anyway and I might as well store the data. Often fun to see stats afterwards (max speed, avg speed, asc/descend, or sometimes it's practical to see the time it took).

I think that should cover the functionality of google maps.

Google pay I never heard of, unless you mean paying for apps in the Play Store, in which case the solution is to contact the developers directly, though they usually don't seem to care enough to get you as a customer (I tried this four times, never got a reply, thus never became a customer since quitting google play).

Hope this helps!

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by Doctor_Fegg on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:52PM (#21250261)
DuckDuckGo has Apple Maps, and there's an API.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by lucb1e on Monday October 14, 2019 @03:11PM (#21251668)
Oh, that's right. Then I just don't know where (other than via DDG) to find their map. I do remember trying to use Apple maps via the Apple website and that didn't work (some months ago).
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by lowan12 on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:42PM (#21250158)
"there is no alternative at all"

If you don't want to use Google Pay, can you not just carry a credit card?

Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by jraph on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:14AM (#21249143)
Maps.me (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.axet.maps/) seems a bit better for finding addresses
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by DHPersonal on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:53PM (#21250273)
Is Square Cash on Android? It has a physical debit card option.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by nickflood on Monday October 14, 2019 @07:16PM (#21253910)
There is Samsung Pay
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by tyrion on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:49AM (#21249578)
I can also recommend posteo.de and mailbox.org Worth checking out imho
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by carapace on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:39PM (#21250136)
Shout out for Hushmail https://www.hushmail.com/ Happy user for many years now.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by rcurry on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:14AM (#21249141)
This. If you want to be respected, use a service provider that values your business. Google ain't one of them.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by dmak on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:53AM (#21248890)
It's not easy to just switch. I have a lot of services tied to my Google account including drive documents.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:56AM (#21248924)
You don't have to switch all of them at once, switching your email is pretty easy.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by xeRTRex on Monday October 14, 2019 @11:53AM (#21249625)
I have been using ProtonMail for a year now and am very happy with the service.
Re:“My Google account got suspended because of NewPipe” by Doctor_Fegg on Monday October 14, 2019 @10:53AM (#21248887)
Runbox is good too.