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Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by comnetxr on Sunday September 29, 2019 @11:12PM (#21111481)
I had an idea for a minimal change to improve a Reddit-like site, perhaps you will find it interesting: split the concept of "subreddit" into "tags" and "communities".

Tags: much of the content of Reddit is people reposting the same thing at various times to various subreddits, and many of the comments are people noticing that it fits into "r/whatever" instead. The default behavior should be that posts of the same link to various tags (r/awww, r/catsstandingup) should not recreate a new post but just backlink to the same post. Repeat posts to the same tag should be a no-operation. This removes the community aspect of tags, and some of the worst emergent behaviors of reddit along with it. Treating a tag as both a topic and a community leads to a neverending cycle of people creating niche topic tags for the community aspect, but then finding themselves "invaded" as people will always want to find and comment on content about topics that they disagree with.

But of course the community aspect of Reddit leads to good things. So you make a separate concept of communities. These communities could follow the posts of one or more tags, applying filters to those of their own choosing, and make their discussion visible within community borders only or visible to all, based on their own choices (in addition to internal community posts.) They can control admission to the communities on their own rules (fully public, invite codes only, etc.) The ability to automatically follow the posts of certain tags (and either view or not view public comments) will keep small communities from getting stale for lack of posts.

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by cheschire on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:08AM (#21112455)
Reddit is wildly popular where many other competitors have failed. The reddit of today is the result of many years of change and trying to think of ways to manage the size in a better way is pointless without considering the entire journey.

Part of what made reddit successful was exactly the subreddit individualism you're trying to remove. It's why so many people were upset when they removed custom stylesheets for subreddits. It felt like that individualism was being stripped away.

Communities don't just spring up from nowhere. They need common interests to bring the people to them.

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by est on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:05AM (#21112440)
> split the concept of "subreddit" into "tags" and "communities".

Tags are brilliant idea until you have tens of thousands of them. Plural forms, hyphens or without hyphens, synonyms, i18n tags of the same thing, mis-spellings, etc.

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by ericsoderstrom on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:56AM (#21112726)
These problems aren't unique to tags, they're already present in subreddits names. For the most part it doesn't seem to be a big deal. As long as you can see the number of subscribers to a certain tag when creating your post, stackexchange style, then you'll probably end up with the tags you intended most of the time.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by toper-centage on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:51AM (#21124740)
Exactly. You just need to take a look at www.reddit.com/r/subredditsashastags
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by tudorw on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:15AM (#21112490)
I'd like to see some 'AI' assisted tagging, where users are prompted to use a tag from a pool of common tags with the AI making suggestions on what might be appropriate, this would address most of the issues listed above.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by input_sh on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:15AM (#21112808)
Pocket does that with the premium subscription. I find it to be quite useful.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by aloisdg on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:39AM (#21112637)
Something like Stack Exchange's tag system would be enough.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by tudorw on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:00AM (#21112743)
I'm not massively familiar with Stack Exchanges tag system, it does have some synonym handling, https://blender.stackexchange.com/tags/synonyms , that seems limited to one alternative though, is there a more advanced aspect that I am missing, perhaps covering sememes?
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by cpayne624 on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:27AM (#21114550)
Can sort by Target to see the (sometimes) multiple synonyms for a particular tag.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by krapp on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:11AM (#21114405)
Tags can be curated or moderated like anything else, that's just an implementation detail. Sites like Twitter and lobste.rs seem to get by just fine with them..
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by WhiteOwlLion on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:44AM (#21114720)
how does stack exchange do it? they have aliases of tags that merge into the authority tag
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by dpau on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:50AM (#21112698)
thank you for this. having fought against tags before for the same reasons i sometimes think the world has gone mad...
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by enz on Monday September 30, 2019 @05:26AM (#21113185)
That would remove the “community bubble”, which is an important aspect I think.

However, a feature making easier to x-post can do the trick, maybe?

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by DEADBEEFC0FFEE on Monday September 30, 2019 @03:58AM (#21112736)
I think you just read the reinvented Delicious.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by woadwarrior01 on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:52AM (#21113000)
I’d once built a Reddit with tags (or a Delicious with votes) 12 years ago. Never really took off and I shuttered it after 2 years.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by DEADBEEFC0FFEE on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:11AM (#21113407)
I think that could be useful in a corporate environment.

Did folk pollute the tags with nonsense?

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by woadwarrior01 on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:32AM (#21114604)
Yes indeed, cleaning up tag pollution (A half way solution I came up with was to use porter stemming to stem tags) and the deluge of spam were the two biggest problems. It was a bit much to deal with for a solo coder, working part time on the problem.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by scrollaway on Monday September 30, 2019 @12:10AM (#21111716)
You're kinda describing Tildes (tildes.net).
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Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by dijit on Monday September 30, 2019 @12:46AM (#21111838)
Even if that's true, which I'm not seeing from a cursory glance; they've released their project as open source and it seems active.

They've chosen technology I like too (python/postgres/redis/saltstack), and it seems to have a clean interface.

On purely technical/product merits I like it.

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by SquareWheel on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:09AM (#21113399)
There's only one admin, and he's literally never posted an alt-right opinion in my entire time on the site.

You've been terribly misinformed, and now you're misinforming others.

Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by DEADBEEFC0FFEE on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:12AM (#21113409)
Maybe mistaking it for voates?
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by SquareWheel on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:14AM (#21113418)
That's a heck of a site to mix it up with if so. Their philosophies could not be more opposite.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by onlydnaq on Monday September 30, 2019 @01:50AM (#21112103)
I believe you might be confusing it with Voat.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by krilly on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:40AM (#21112939)
The alt-right, despite all its flaws, so make very good open source forum software
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by namanyayg on Monday September 30, 2019 @12:49AM (#21111852)
Any sources on that? Tildes is a young community still tho, voat failed and I don't think it'll be able to reach much success either (where success = massive volume of users). We'll see.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by krapp on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:16AM (#21114445)
Did Voat fail? It seems to me they attracted precisely the demographic they intended to.
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by namanyayg on Monday September 30, 2019 @01:41PM (#21117800)
Yeah, they have no posts in months? Or am I missing something
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by petercooper on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:27AM (#21113479)
lobste.rs does the tagging part of that in a HN-esque style: https://lobste.rs/t/databases
Re:Show HN: Ieddit – A minimalist, Reddit-like site with ano... by tiredyam on Sunday September 29, 2019 @11:22PM (#21111528)
Sorry to break it to you but Reddit has this already