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Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by lostlogin on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:27PM (#20972736)
I’ll stick to using my money as money thanks. It works fine.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by bko on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:46PM (#20972867)
I'm glad that you live in a country with a stable monetary supply, little to no inflation and no capital controls.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by lostjohnny on Monday September 16, 2019 @04:50AM (#20982196)
and the solution is "let facebook be your central bank and currency supplier"?
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by IGotThroughIt on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:40PM (#20973226)
Indeedy. My country has 7% inflation. And that calculation is done by the very state that is responsible for inflation so their word on this only means so much. Any other currency or store of value that solves this is more than welcome.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by twistiti on Saturday September 14, 2019 @04:53PM (#20973710)
Would it be a solution for you to buy foreign currencies with lower inflation amount (e.g. EUR)?
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by azernik on Saturday September 14, 2019 @07:30PM (#20974524)
"capital controls" generally includes foreign exchange controls, i.e. restrictions on conversion to foreign currency and local use of foreign currency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_controls

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by meschi on Saturday September 14, 2019 @09:02PM (#20974895)
And why should this be different for a private currency controlled by facebook?
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by austhrow743 on Saturday September 14, 2019 @10:34PM (#20975219)
It shouldn't. All capital control is terrible. It could be different though.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by IGotThroughIt on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:14PM (#20979770)
A lot of wealthy people do that. It isn't as straight forward though. It would be nice to be able to do so on the internet and for smaller amounts.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Saturday September 14, 2019 @05:52PM (#20974068)
Because obviously an instrument backed by foreign currencies will be the solution to capital controls?!
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by jeena on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:46PM (#20972870)
Not in Sweden anymore, most of the lunch places in Gothenburg where I live don't allow payment by cache anymore. If you have money but not digital, you will go hungry nowadays.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by ahakki on Saturday September 14, 2019 @07:03PM (#20974419)
This would never fly in Switzerland. You need to accept Swiss Franc Banknotes of any denomination as settlement for any monetary debt (this includes a purchase of a 1.- stick of gum paid for with a CHF 1000 Bill. there will be some arguing required for that one in practice, but the law is clear).
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by phlo on Sunday September 15, 2019 @05:20AM (#20976324)
Wrong.

The relevant law (art. 3 WZG[0]) requires persons to accept all banknotes (and up to 100 coins per transaction) as payment, but this only applies after a contract has been formed. It's perfectly legal for any store to indicate to customers that it will not accept large-denomination notes or cards[1]. If the customer is not willing or capable to pay using the accepted means of payment, no contract is formed, and the chewing gum remains with the store.

[0] https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/19994336/...

[1] https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassensturz-espresso/geschaefte...

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by ahakki on Sunday September 15, 2019 @10:36AM (#20977376)
You say that, Espresso is a good source for this kind of thing and I'm not saying your wrong. But the letter of the law does state that everyone has to accept Swiss banknotes with no restrictions.

My personal legal asessment: If you were to form a contravt for purchase of goods and stipulated ahead of time that payment will be made in small bills (or electronic payments only), receiving payment with 1000.- bills would give the right to demand compensation related to handling large bills (security, verification etc.) due to the contractual breach, but it would not allow you to deny the money and demand payment as contracted.

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by mehrdadn on Sunday September 15, 2019 @05:22AM (#20976329)
As I understand in the US a purchase is not the same thing as a debt, i.e. nobody has to accept any particular type of currency for a purchase, only for a debt. Is Switzerland really different here?
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by throwaway744678 on Saturday September 14, 2019 @06:44PM (#20974331)
Is that even allowed? I don't know the specific law here, but in my country (France) a shop can not legally refuse to be paid in the legal currency (in cash). It can refuse credit card or checks, though.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by chucky on Saturday September 14, 2019 @11:42PM (#20975450)
How I wish it was this way in Sweden. Unfortunately it's not - there is no requirement to accept any specific kind of payment and it's by now rare to see anyone pay with cash.
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by coolfragrances on Saturday September 14, 2019 @07:21PM (#20974493)
This is the first time I've heard of something like this. I grew up in Greece during the mass deflation of the currency and people wouldn't accept anything but cash. Interesting to learn that it works both ways.