Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by jansan on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:20AM
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What the hell does "decrease by factor 3x" mean? Did power usage previously decrease by 1% and now by 3%? Is power usage now -200%? Seriously, I do not get it.
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Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by MiroF on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:23AM
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Honestly there nothing ambiguous about it so I don't get why you were confused.
Take the current power, divide by 3, that is the new usage.
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by jansan on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:29AM
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So decreasing by 3 is the same as decreasing by 66%?
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by jerf on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @10:16AM
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I dislike this common usage as well because of the weird properties it has too (if "decrease by two thirds" and "decrease by three" is the same, the "decrease by" function has a rather weird shape, also, 66% faster = 200% faster?), but at this point, seeing someone use the term the way I think is "correct" is the exception that I notice rather than the rule. This fight is lost. When speaking myself I tend to just use an unambiguous construct (e.g., "the code takes only 1/3rd as long to run") and let everybody else do their own thing. It's rare for it to be a real problem.
Honestly, doing any sort of math with percentages in particular is just silly and should be avoided. Schools try to teach an official interpretation of "56 + 34%", but it's clear it doesn't stick and the adult world uses it fairly inconsistently in general. (In specific cases it is used unambiguously, for example, the accounting world, but in general, it's very sloppy.)
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by distances on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:51AM
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Probably some US colloquialism? Doesn't make sense to me either, except in the sense "went down 300%" which obviously wasn't the purpose here.
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by abdulmuhaimin on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @10:24AM
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nah, its quite common here even in Southeast Asia
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by whatshisface on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @10:30AM
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Decreasing or increasing by a factor is mathematically cleaner than decreasing or increasing by a percent. To decrease by a percent the formula is (1 - 66/100)*x, to decrease by a factor of three the formula is x/3. It might not seem like a big difference, but the latter can make things a lot cleaner in long finance formulas.
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by keymone on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @11:02AM
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no, decreasing by 3 is `a - 3`
decreasing by factor of 3 is `a / 3` or `a * 0.(3)` or `a * 33.(3)%` or `a - a * 66.6%`
edit: math is hard!
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by apazzolini on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @11:09AM
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Do you have similar issues with the phrase "increased by 2x"?
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by MiroF on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @03:42PM
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Why the need to convert to percent?
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by thecompilr on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:42AM
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Exactly
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by deftturtle on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @11:21AM
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When people say 3 fold, they mean 3 times. I think fold should mean 2^3. When you fold a piece of paper, it doubles each time.
So on the news when they talk about a 10 fold increase, I know they mean 10 times and not 1024 times.
Does anyone else here feel the same, or is fold just another confusing colloquialism?
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by jcranberry on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @03:52PM
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Well, when you fold something you don't necessarily have to fold it in half.
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by umvi on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:22AM
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I think what they are saying is: "Current stable Firefox release uses N battery power. The nightly build will use a third as much (N/3) by comparison"
Re:Firefox Nightly on macOS: decrease in power usage by a fa...
by fnordsensei on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @09:26AM
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If a is 3b, then b must be 1/3a. Iām reading it as cutting 2/3 of the power requirement.