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Re:Hiring Is Broken? by Frost1x on Saturday August 31, 2019 @10:06AM (#20846326)
There's an impression that this problem is only at a few places like Google which is not the case. As someone recently browsing the market I've seen this process adopted rampantly and without reason or rationale.

So many companies I would consider mid-tier, lower, or not even technology companies have outsourced have adopted similar if not the same hiring models of FAANG or outsource hiring/recruiting/assessments that follow suit. It's an absolute mess.

Re:Hiring Is Broken? by alexandercrohde on Saturday August 31, 2019 @10:55AM (#20846623)
Meh. I don't buy it. I agree with the parent that it's usually people not getting hired being mad about it.

- "interviewing is broken" is a meaningless linkbait title. All you can really say is it's less efficient than it could be.

- In fact, interviewing in tech might be the best of any industry. Look how good we are at hiring minorities, people without college degrees, people who don't wear suits, people with verbal tics, or even tattoos. That wouldn't happen in investment banking.

- If your point IS that hiring could be better, then instead of winging, propose a fast and simpler and cost-effective alternative, and then try to give some hard evidence that the method you propose is better than whatever you're winging about (usually leet code).

Re:Hiring Is Broken? by NetOpWibby on Saturday August 31, 2019 @12:44PM (#20847369)
^ These are some of the reasons why I start in this industry. I’m a minority who is self-taught and hates wearing suits/business-wear every day (also, it’s so damn cool go from having an idea to having it built and seeing it in the wild in the span of a few weeks to months).

One of my most popular HN posts [1] is about how the job search sucks so I empathize a lot. However, I have little interest in working for “top” companies.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16127697

[1]: https://blog.webb.page/2018/why-the-job-search-sucks

Re:Hiring Is Broken? by alexbanks on Saturday August 31, 2019 @02:15PM (#20847916)
This is a mindblowing response to me. To say "look at how good we are a hiring minorities" feels like it has to be an obvious troll.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by username90 on Saturday August 31, 2019 @02:17PM (#20847930)
We are extremely good at hiring minorities, so good in fact that we stopped calling Asians minorities.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by Yukata on Sunday September 01, 2019 @05:52AM (#20851413)
Asians don't count as minorities. We privilege now!
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by Aeolun on Sunday September 01, 2019 @01:26AM (#20850624)
> It's usually people not getting hired being mad about it.

Or it’s a bunch of very competent coders annoyed that they’re made to jump through hoops.

Re:Hiring Is Broken? by Apocryphon on Saturday August 31, 2019 @01:28PM (#20847618)
People doing the hiring are complaining, not just the people failing to get hired.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by nkohari on Saturday August 31, 2019 @12:00PM (#20847084)
> Look how good we are at hiring minorities

Wait, what? Are you talking about the software industry?

Re:Hiring Is Broken? by o10449366 on Saturday August 31, 2019 @01:49PM (#20847733)
In terms of providing high paying jobs with good career progressions to minority groups that doesn't necessarily discriminate on the basis of prior education, credentials, background (or lack thereof), yeah, I'd say software engineering is pretty decent compared to many other industries.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by theelous3 on Saturday August 31, 2019 @04:38PM (#20848670)
Aye. I've never seen a software team in my country that were all natives. Software doesn't care where you're from, at least when you're writing it.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by mixmastamyk on Saturday August 31, 2019 @12:38PM (#20847340)
Yes, it’s endemic. A greeting card developer on app engine recently put me through the wringer. To what end? Could have done the job with one lobe tied behind my back.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by sharadov on Saturday August 31, 2019 @04:34PM (#20848649)
Exactly, every company here in the Bay area, however crappy their technology stack or the actual work you will be doing, will put you through a process akin to FAANG. As much as I love tech and have kept my skills up to date, this ridiculousness has left many truly creative engineers demoralized. I have reached a point where I want to leave tech altogether.
Re:Hiring Is Broken? by bengale on Saturday August 31, 2019 @12:08PM (#20847143)
Odds are those places are going to be a nightmare to work at anyway.