WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal

Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by johnisgood on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:28AM (#20819085)

I do not know but I encountered this more often than not. Direct links to images are a rare occurrence in my experience. I usually just right click on the image, then click on "Open Image in New Tab" which will get me what I want. Off-topic but: was it not Google that tried to work around this so one could not do even this in the search results?

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by n8henry on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:47AM (#20819220)

Google removed that functionality because of a settlement with Getty.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by giancarlostoro on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:02AM (#20819321)

That is awful and fundamentally flawed. If it's on my device, I can save it.

Edit: Come to think of it, if it's on my device, it's already saved in some way, shape and form. Clearly nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue Google.

What Google should of done is offered to advertise that an image is available to purchase...

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by dspillett on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:25AM (#20819495)

> awful and fundamentally flawed

Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense. And even when it seems to from your perspective, the way others interpret it does not.

> nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue

Technical people can be arseholes too you know. Many patent trolls are technical people, not just legal eagles, for instance.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by MichaelApproved on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:18AM (#20819994)

> Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense.

This isn't about the law. It's unclear if the law would require something like this or not. Google decided not to find out by settling. The settlement terms were up to the two companies to decide and were not mandated by laws.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by eythian on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:54AM (#20820386)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/view-image/ I installed this to work around it.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by dspillett on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:39AM (#20819638)

I think it is a misguided attempt at making the content dynamically adjust to the device proportions, so the screenshot is large but not overlarge (over screen size) on mobile and desktop devices of different orientations. A laudable goal, if badly implemented (I can't scale at all on mobile, it distorts oddly when I zoom on desktop).

Either that or deliberate user filtering: if you can't figure out right-click (or long press) then "open in new tab" on your own, then maybe you are not the class of user the creator wants to support :-).

I doubt the inconvenience is deliberate, more a side effect of some other design consideration. There are smaller images on each of the widget description pages (though they also scale oddly in places) which in total provide more detail than that one image. Perhaps drop the author a polite message suggesting that they include a "view full image" link near the screenshot on the opening page or with the image itself as the mouse target?

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by reaperducer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:35AM (#20820826)

There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do this?

And why do they disable native scrolling? Apple spent hundreds of man hours to get scrolling just right in iOS, why override the OS?

You can't even scroll the page if it has a code block on it.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by FreeHugs on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:20PM (#20821873)

On most desktop browsers you should be able to right-click the image and display it in a new tab which then lets you zoom any way you want.

On Android there is a setting to always enable zoom.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by reaperducer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:31PM (#20822001)

That doesn't help me with scrolling the page in any way.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by senorprogrammer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:40AM (#20820882)

I agree. There's an open issue for this in the `wtfdocs` repo. If you have any thoughts on what's causing it, please drop a message in there.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by andai on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:41AM (#20819167)

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by austinjp on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:17AM (#20819435)

It's my understanding that this HTML is (mis)used to reduce tap-delay on mobile devices:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6397748/whats-the-point-...

That's doesn't excuse it, of course.

I think it's boilerplate that ends up pasted into a lot of websites.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by iaml on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:13AM (#20819409)

I have no clue why people downvote you, as this is exactly the reason this page is not zoomable. In my humble opinion people doing stuff like this should be forcefully separated from the process of creating web sites.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by debaserab2 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:57AM (#20819777)

There’s reasons for doing it, though. For example, iOS Safari likes to zoom past 1.0 slightly when focusing an input and doesn’t zoom back out to 1.0 when unfocused. This often leaves users in a slightly zoomed in state which means they can easily miss right side aligned buttons and content. Setting the maximum scale to 1 in the viewport prevents this.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by nine_k on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:44AM (#20819670)

Zooms just fine in mobile Firefox.

It's a good thing when the makers of a browser actually care about the user.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by senorprogrammer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:36AM (#20820835)

I've deleted the 'max-scale' and 'user-scalable' values from the meta tag. Let me know if that helps at all.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by floatingatoll on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @12:10PM (#20821120)

The site still can’t be scrolled past the opening image easily on Safari iOS, but the initial image can now be zoomed - thank you!

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:40AM (#20818764)

Zooming works fine here. Mobile Safari iPhone SE.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by enedil on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:35AM (#20819123)

That's because Safari disregards this option, as it is hostile towards users.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by nvrspyx on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:11AM (#20819385)

The site does mess up inertial scrolling on iOS Safari though.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by senorprogrammer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:22AM (#20820665)

Thanks for this comment. I think you might have just solved issue #33 in the wtfdocs repo.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday August 29, 2019 @01:31AM (#20826915)

Internal scrolling works fine here.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by nvrspyx on Friday August 30, 2019 @11:08AM (#20839331)

I think it was fixed. It’s working just fine now, but it was borked when I posted the comment.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday August 29, 2019 @04:51AM (#20827859)

Inertial

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by UI_at_80x24 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:50AM (#20818819)

Same, Firefox on linux can't zoom the image. Right-click 'View Image' does provide a standard zoomable image, but why make me work to see if your product is of use/benefit to me?

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by giancarlostoro on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:02AM (#20819329)

I am on Linux on Firefox and I can zoom... Ctrl + scrollwheel. Or am I missing something?

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by graedus on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:21AM (#20820017)

I've always understood user-scalable="no" to apply only to mobile/touch devices and their pinch-to-zoom functionality. I can't remember an instance where Ctrl + scrollwheel and Ctrl + -/+/0 didn't work on desktop browsers.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by giancarlostoro on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:07AM (#20820519)

I even disable that on Firefox Mobile cause I hate not being able to just Zoom. Don't assume it looks perfect for me without my consent.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by lscotte on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @12:58PM (#20821627)

I can zoom in on it just fine with Android Firefox.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by buckminster on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:02PM (#20821666)

They fixed the site.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by senorprogrammer on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:21AM (#20820023)

Part of the site's default template. Bug #47 in the wtfdocs repo has been opened for this.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by godelski on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:59PM (#20822289)

On Firefox (desktop and Android) I can zoom no problem. On desktop I have to view image first though others just the background zooms, on mobile it works exactly as expected.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by Yizahi on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:33AM (#20820163)

I can zoom in desktop Firefox and can't in mobile Firefox. In addition on mobile screenshot is heavily distorted vertically.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by the_pwner224 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:50AM (#20820330)

In Firefox for Android you can force enable zoom in Settings => Accessibility.

Still doesn't fix the stretching of the image...

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by igravious on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:27AM (#20819513)

What do you mean that you can't zoom?

Do you mean you can't zoom the image or do you mean you can't zoom the site?

And on what combination of device, os, and browser can you not zoom the image/site?

On Firefox on Linux on my laptop I can ctrl+scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the site, or right-click on the image and select `view image` from the context-sensitive menu which opens the image in another tab and from there the cursor becomes a magnifying glass.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by pininja on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @12:18PM (#20821195)

I was able to click on the screenshot to open it up in a modal, and that was zoomable.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by bla3 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @12:07PM (#20821088)

Looks like it's now fixed.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by joemaffei on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @07:44AM (#20818788)

On mobile, tapping the picture opens it in isolation, allowing you to zoom in on it.

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by tazard on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:47AM (#20819216)

It opens a smaller version in isolation that I still can't zoom

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by tazard on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:49AM (#20819232)

For others having the same issue, the image can be found in the github repo: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wtfutil/wtf/master/images/...

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by Yizahi on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:37AM (#20820201)

You can't zoom it either

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Re:WTF – A personal information dashboard for your terminal by tdewitt on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @08:41AM (#20819165)

Came here to say this. Potentially interested but I've lost all interest because I can't zoom the page to actually look at the screenshot. I consider this bad behavior and I don't reward bad behavior.

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