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Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by anarazel on Thursday August 22, 2019 @07:41PM (#20773389)
The whole Dell related ownership structure is just ... odd.

    Under the terms of the transaction, Pivotal's Class A common
    stockholders will receive $15.00 per share cash for each
    share held, and Pivotal's Class B common stockholder, Dell
    Technologies, will receive approximately 7.2 million shares
    of VMware Class B common stock, at an exchange ratio of
    0.0550 shares of VMware Class B common stock for each share
    of Pivotal Class B common stock. This transaction, in
    aggregate, results in an expected net cash payout for VMware
    of $0.8 billion. The impact of equity issued to Dell
    Technologies would increase its ownership stake in VMware by
    approximately 0.34 percentage points to 81.09% based on the
    shares currently outstanding. VMware currently holds 15
    percent of fully-diluted outstanding shares of Pivotal. The
    transaction is expected to be funded through cash on the
    balance sheet, accessing short-term borrowing capacity, and
    approximately 7.2 million shares of VMware Class B common
    stock to Dell.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by xigency on Thursday August 22, 2019 @08:10PM (#20773554)
For mobile:

> Under the terms of the transaction, Pivotal's Class A common stockholders will receive $15.00 per share cash for each share held, and Pivotal's Class B common stockholder, Dell Technologies, will receive approximately 7.2 million shares of VMware Class B common stock, at an exchange ratio of 0.0550 shares of VMware Class B common stock for each share of Pivotal Class B common stock. This transaction, in aggregate, results in an expected net cash payout for VMware of $0.8 billion. The impact of equity issued to Dell Technologies would increase its ownership stake in VMware by approximately 0.34 percentage points to 81.09% based on the shares currently outstanding. VMware currently holds 15 percent of fully-diluted outstanding shares of Pivotal. The transaction is expected to be funded through cash on the balance sheet, accessing short-term borrowing capacity, and approximately 7.2 million shares of VMware Class B common stock to Dell.

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by gigatexal on Thursday August 22, 2019 @08:22PM (#20773621)
Thank you!
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by tru3_power on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:20PM (#20774283)
Can anyone here chime in and explain what the purpose is of this?
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by y2kenny on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:36PM (#20774335)
The fixed line break probably make reading difficult on a small, narrow, variable width screen such as mobile.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by mcnichol on Friday August 23, 2019 @06:45AM (#20776181)
The 21st century equivalent of "Who's on First"
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by techpop10 on Sunday August 25, 2019 @08:45AM (#20792647)
Ultimately, this transfers shares to Dell that, most likely, provides liquidity that could be used to pay a little bit of their massive debt ($56B) that is choking them. Dell is in financial trouble. See https://seekingalpha.com/article/4278101-dell-technologies-m...
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by dmix on Friday August 23, 2019 @12:06AM (#20774437)
The stock arrangement?
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by raviolo on Thursday August 22, 2019 @09:27PM (#20773872)
This is why I enjoy HN community
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by techslave on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:38PM (#20774340)
because of the ability to quote TFA?

personally i enjoy it because of insightful comments

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by Vosporos on Friday August 23, 2019 @09:52AM (#20777601)
hahaha good one
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by maimeowmeow on Friday August 23, 2019 @07:09AM (#20776285)
absolutly not
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by latchkey on Friday August 23, 2019 @12:16AM (#20774470)
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/29/pivotal_ceo_intervi...

"Pivotal trades at a loss but revenue is growing. Having said that, in its report to investors last month, after the release of its first quarter results for FY 2020, the company issued revenue projections that were lower than expected. Shares immediately suffered a more than 40 per cent fall and have not yet recovered. They're currently cruising along at about $10 apiece, five bucks below its 2018 IPO opening price of $15."

Interesting that the IPO price was also $15.

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by oneplane on Thursday August 22, 2019 @08:33PM (#20773667)
Aside from the wall of english words I have a rather limited understanding of what it actually says. Looks like a lot of weird dealings to me. And if it's described in that way I wonder if it's a good idea at all.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by maxerickson on Friday August 23, 2019 @12:01AM (#20774421)
People that own one type of share of Pivotal are getting $15 per share for them. Dell, which owns a different type of share, is exchanging the Pivotal shares for VMWare shares. Because the shares of Pivotal and VMWare have different values, it isn't a 1:1 exchange, the VMWare shares are treated as being ~20 times more valuable.

I would say the transaction is mostly boring accounting, not anything weird. Who knows if Pivotal should operate as part of VMWare instead of independently, but once you decide to do that, you have to consolidate the ownership somehow.

An aside, the difference in the shares is so that Dell could keep control of the company while selling some of it on the stock market. I wonder if there is a good analysis of how companies with closely held control do over time.

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by howlingfantods on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:58PM (#20774411)
In simple English

Context: Dell has large stakes in both Pivotal and VMware

VMware buys Pivotal. Pivotal's regular shareholders get paid in cash per share ($15). Dell, which owns a separate class of shares, gets paid in VMware shares rather than cash. This is likely because Dell already has a large cash balance and they don't need any more cash.

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by jasonm23 on Friday August 23, 2019 @06:20AM (#20776044)
Large stake? Dell owns both, it's a move to rescue the tailspin that Pivotal's stock price is in.

Potentially.

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by downrightmike on Thursday August 22, 2019 @08:54PM (#20773741)
"Financial Engineering" Why make anything anymore when you can do tricks with, and for money?
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by grkvlt on Thursday August 22, 2019 @11:19PM (#20774281)
"Software Engineering" Why make anything anymore when you can do tricks with ones and zeroes, for money?
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by geodel on Friday August 23, 2019 @09:24AM (#20777276)
They do make stuff. Idea is to make next generation software worse than previous generation. Make money by fiddling with those agile JIRA/Storyboards and endless bug fixing.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by marketgod on Thursday August 22, 2019 @09:38PM (#20773925)
I don't know if this was financial engineering because Dell bought EMC/VMWare but it was the smaller company, so this is a way to just increase the ownership they have rather than take cash out of the company which they use to make purchases. I'm not a FA expert, only TA, but that's my thought here.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by momokoko on Thursday August 22, 2019 @10:41PM (#20774140)
Financial engineering at the highest level. Dell will be studied and admired for decades.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by RachelF on Friday August 23, 2019 @01:04AM (#20774650)
Dell is already studied as a case of corruption.

"Intel paid Dell in the form of rebates as part of an agreement to ensure that Dell would not use computer chips made by Advanced Micro Devices in its personal computers and computer servers, according to the civil charges."[1]

Dell paid the SEC $100 million in penalties, Intel $1.45 billion.

[1]https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/business/23dell.html

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by scarface74 on Friday August 23, 2019 @08:09AM (#20776637)
Intel paid all major PC vendors to advertise “Intel inside” and add stickers.

Famously, Apple has always refused.

https://youtu.be/COAOknlfMgI

Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by rasz on Friday August 23, 2019 @11:29AM (#20778625)
$1.45 billion was European Commission (EC), and Intel not only never paid that, but actually managed to fight and bribe their way to possibility of overturning it altogether. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/06/victory-in...
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by zymhan on Friday August 23, 2019 @11:53AM (#20778867)
Yeah my Dell account manager was good at acting clueless about this history when we discussed Dell's lack of AMD servers.
Re:VMware Acquires Carbon Black for $2.1B and Pivotal for $2.7B by kmlx on Friday August 23, 2019 @02:24AM (#20774968)
from the year 2010