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Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by buboard on Monday August 12, 2019 @10:50AM (#20675893)
hmm. it seems cruise / boat travel is even worse than planes. That only leaves trains, in combination with car and ... horses? There is already a campaign against air travel e.g. for conferences, and it will probably become a trend in the next few years. I wonder what is going to fill in the gap that air travel left for aspiring tourists.

There is also the possibility that electric planes will become a thing

There is also the possibility that people will spend half a year working in an exotic place to avoid travelling too much

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by lm28469 on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:15AM (#20676153)
> boat travel is even worse than planes.

Not all of them, can't do much more eco friendly than sailboats. Besides walking or cycling, but that won't take you across oceans/seas.

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by buboard on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:18AM (#20676187)
> won't take you across oceans/seas

yeah bummer. what about balloons?

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by SketchySeaBeast on Monday August 12, 2019 @12:18PM (#20676847)
I sadly don't have 80 vacation days.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by notJim on Monday August 12, 2019 @01:10PM (#20677459)
Interesting, this actually points increasing vacation days as a small part of a reasonable climate policy. If we need to switch to slower transportation methods, it's only fair that we should get more vacation days. If you have an extra couple of days, even in the US a plane trip can become a rail trip.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by SketchySeaBeast on Monday August 12, 2019 @01:22PM (#20677600)
That'll be a hard sell - I imagine as we move to more climate friendly policies our ability to produce is going to go down - it'll be hard to convince employers that giving more vacation days and becoming even less efficient with the employees is a good choice.

Of course, we've been becoming increasingly more efficient and we're not getting more time off, so you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by notJim on Monday August 12, 2019 @02:19PM (#20678287)
Between the growing labor movement, and more willingness to regulate companies, I'm not sure we need to convince them.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by SketchySeaBeast on Monday August 12, 2019 @02:38PM (#20678447)
Are either of these actually happening? I see a movement towards a gig economy and side hustles. I don't know if there's actually a move towards workers standing up for their rights.

Same goes with regulation - there are definite corners of society who would like that, but those who are in power, who are in power because of the people, clearly don't.

Just to be clear, I want these things, I just don't see society turning that way.

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by notJim on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:41PM (#20679749)
I think we're seeing the beginnings of them, but they definitely have a headwind. It's definitely too early to say they're happening, but there's a possibility for the first time in my lifetime, IMO.

As far as unionization, there seems to be a trend of newsrooms organizing, I've seen a burger place trying to unionize where I live, and more and more people are talking about unionizing in the games space. With tech workers, we're not there yet, but efforts like the anti-ICE stuff could be a first step down that path.

As far as regulation, all the senators running for president support the Green New Deal, and so do a handful of congress members. And locally, several cities have passed laws providing paid sick leave, including in Texas.

These are frankly all pretty small, but taken together, I think they show that things could change.

Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by icebraining on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:45AM (#20676478)
lm28469 is saying that sailboats do take you across seas/oceans. There are a few cruising sailboats; though they currently use wind only for extra power, I could see them selling "eco" trips where engines are only used for emergencies.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by lm28469 on Monday August 12, 2019 @12:10PM (#20676756)
Yeah I updated my post to make it clearer. Even a small sailboat can take you across oceans.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by buboard on Monday August 12, 2019 @03:04PM (#20678742)
I think you are creating a trend here. Watch out however because there will be casualties among the 'grammers.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by adyer07 on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:23PM (#20679562)
Don’t forget bicycles! Long distance bike touring is a really fascinating way to experience a place, if you have the time to do it. My rule of thumb is that one hour of driving takes about a day of bicycle touring - so you can get remarkably far in a week or two.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by dredmorbius on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:38PM (#20681675)
Right. Whilst it's not difficult to cycle 100 or even 200 miles in a single day, it's far more pleasurable to keep tour cycling to 40-60 miles, particularly on an extended trip and whilst carrying luggage.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by desas on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:24PM (#20679576)
A guilty pleasure of mine is reading cycle touring travelogues. I'm really looking forward to trying it.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by adyer07 on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:29PM (#20679615)
Ha, that’s how I started! If you’re interested in dipping a toe in, I recommend doing a weekend trip - bike out, camp, and back. It’s a wonderful feeling to escape wherever you are under your own power.
Re:Tourism Is Overwhelming the World's Top Destinations by buboard on Monday August 12, 2019 @04:57PM (#20679924)
i love cycling but never did a tour like that. That is already a thing though but i doubt it will catch on because of environment concerns. It's not for everyone