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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by jaclaz on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:47AM (#20653070)
>This immediately made me wonder if I have ever seen "without offering any actual proofs" added as a qualifier to any of the press statements of Apple, Microsoft or Google.

I would go a little further, even the use of the verb "to claim" is in itself a little diminutive, had it been one of the big US companies their CEO's would have probably "said", "stated" or "announced" or "affirmed" (and not "claimed").

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by Ajedi32 on Friday August 09, 2019 @10:13AM (#20654485)
I think it makes sense to use "claim" to describe statements as sweeping and general as that one. I think Apple claiming iOS is "more powerful and secure than Android" would be met with a similar level of skepticism.
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by RenRav on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:06AM (#20653166)
Interesting point, it does seem oddly framed now.
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by cojxd on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:50AM (#20653087)
When the CEO of Apple says something, it happens.

Huawei have yet to prove themselves in this space.

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by washadjeffmad on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:11AM (#20653192)
Do you not acknowledge that Huawei is a large, multinational company with large and well liked product lines competitive with popular US brands?

Do you think that happened by mere chance, or is there another reason you inherently deny their success?

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by addicted on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:37AM (#20653340)
If the person is from the US, they’ve likely never come across a Huawei device and are unaware of how popular and good their laptops and phones are.

Edit: In general it’s quite fascinating how backwards the US smartphone technology scene is. I only recently became aware of this being involved in thst bubble myself. The US is middle of the pack at best when it comes to mobile networks, it’s way behind when it comes to phone hardware. The one area where it leads is software and services, but it will be interesting if the US can maintain the lead here, especially since basically all the American software companies are trying to emulate WeChat.

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by cojxd on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:56AM (#20653461)
I am from the EU and I've seen lots of Huawei mobiles. But what are they, apart from one of many Android OEMs that make no money?
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by oblio on Friday August 09, 2019 @09:54AM (#20654301)
> But what are they, apart from one of many Android OEMs that make no money?

Yeah, about that: https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/annual-report/2018

=> Net profit 59,345 CNY Million 25.1%

I believe that's about $8bn. And the 25.1% at the end is the increase from last year.

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by CountSessine on Friday August 09, 2019 @11:09AM (#20655052)
Most of which is probably from their switch hardware business. Android has sucked the money out of the smartphone business.
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by junipertea on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:21AM (#20653244)
In general making an OS from scratch wasn't very successful even with Samsung (#2 maker with considerable market share and a track record) completely failed with Tizen, so a relatively younger and smaller chinese company succeeding seems dubious. Of course I would be glad for a competing mobile OS, but I would wait for benchmarks and take security statements with a grain of salt. Also, it might be completely different departments at Huawei but there's the Cisco router firmware debacle (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10485560675556000)
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by oblio on Friday August 09, 2019 @09:56AM (#20654315)
> #2 maker with considerable market share and a track record

You mean #1, right? :-) https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019-...

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by MYEUHD on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:58AM (#20653121)
Cough... AirPower Cough...
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by collyw on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:55AM (#20653106)
"Just Works"

yeah right.

Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by varjag on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:49AM (#20653076)
How many US CEOs would have directly compared it to a specific competitor product on the announce?
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by jsgo on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:23AM (#20653641)
There were I'm fairly sure 3 Google I/Os in a row where they specifically spoke of iOS when talking about new features (probably more still, I haven't followed the livestreams anymore for them or for WWDC in like 2 years I guess). WWDC they'd do it as well (some during speeches, then the "whose devices are up to date" pie charts with like ~10% on the newest Android release of the time and >70% on the newest iOS release of the time). Microsoft did it during the Windows Phone days, but I think now they're trying to extend olive branches especially to Android, but I believe they've been nice about iOS as well.
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by EastToWest on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:52AM (#20653091)
Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by sniperjzp on Friday August 09, 2019 @12:35PM (#20655910)
Countless time Steve Jobs mocked M$ and Windows in their new products announcement.