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Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by lmilcin on Thursday August 08, 2019 @08:21AM (#20643793)
Of course, even if they were totally kicking ass it will take many years for AMD to build more capacity to what Intel has. Fabs take astronomic investment and time to build.

But, it seems Intel is and has been for quite some time unable to even keep up with competition. It was leader and it seems 10 and 7nm processes completely stopped them in their tracks with regards to competition.

I am kind of interested what actually happen. Probably there is an interesting book to be written on Intel's troubles with getting 10nm node.

Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by O5vYtytb on Thursday August 08, 2019 @09:08AM (#20644124)
AMD is fabless and uses TSMC and Global Foundries. I imagine they can ramp faster than you say.
Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by lmilcin on Thursday August 08, 2019 @09:14AM (#20644169)
I didn't know that. Still, somebody would have to build capacity to handle demand and it won't be much faster just because it is TSMC/GF.
Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by wtallis on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:15AM (#20644782)
The capacity already exists, if AMD can outbid the guys trying to use TSMC to produce GPUs and smartphone SoCs.
Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by sundvor on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:44AM (#20645033)
In thrilled to see all the good news coming from AMD; that sounds really good for the 3950X I'm eyeing later this year.

I've had enough of the issues with my 6850k.

Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by Nokinside on Thursday August 08, 2019 @08:40AM (#20643941)
They made some process technology choices that didn't work out as they planned.

The delay of the 10nm process and patching the delay with 14+ and 14++ didn't stop anything else they do in process technology. They have accelerated the path to 7nm (similar to TSMC's 5mm).

ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting.

Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by ksec on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:30AM (#20644924)
>ps. Intel plans to launch their first discrete GPU in 2020 using 7nm process. That's going to be interesting.

It is 10nm in 2020, defiantly not 7nm. That is scheduled for 2021, if they could make it on time.

Re:AMD Rome Second Generation EPYC Review: 2x 64-core Benchm... by ethbro on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:16PM (#20646402)
The issue with Intel's scheduling statements now is they're highly suspect.

I feel like they would have burned a lot less goodwill if they hadn't straight up lied for multiple years about their maturity and timeline.