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Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by Maximus9000 on Monday July 22, 2019 @08:47AM (#20497469)
The unwritten rule is that "the middle seat sucks, they get both middle armrests". Sadly, not everyone knows that rule.

> "The seat you paid for has borders. Middle-seat elbow ownership ends on the armrests (you’re entitled to both)"

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/travel/article-a-parent...

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by taneq on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:14AM (#20497656)
Most planes I fly on, the middle seat is not wide enough for them to do anything else. Three full-sized males sitting next to each other will be physically touching shoulders.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by metafizikal on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:05AM (#20497598)
For real. I always think of this bit[1] while I'm riding in the middle.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFx1Cpxpx1E

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by Maximus9000 on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:08AM (#20498073)
Great bit!
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by Zenbit_UX on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:22AM (#20497720)
Didn't know this was a thing, I feel bad now. I've probably taken someone's armrest before who sat in the middle. :(
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by HeWhoLurksLate on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:04AM (#20497587)
That was a great read. Thanks!
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by topmonk on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:07AM (#20497611)
Whoever takes the armrest first gets priority. It may cause your lifetime happiness to have a little more volatility but since everyone has the same random chance of getting the middle seat, still fair.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by mr_crankypants on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:53AM (#20497956)
Your chances of getting the middle seat go up as the other seats are taken, meaning that a lot of the people in the middle seats are people who had to book that ticket on short notice: death in the family, emergency business trip, other flight got canceled, etc.

The airline's already got "being crappy to the person who's having a crappy day" covered. Don't be the human embodiment of an airline.

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by anbop on Monday July 22, 2019 @11:08AM (#20498698)
I flew in a lot of middle seats and it’s because I was a young unattached guy booking last minute trips at high prices.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by rwc on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:10AM (#20497635)
If you think getting the middle seat is random chance I’ve got news for you.
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Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by RobertRoberts on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:36AM (#20497834)
Go buy a plane ticket right now. Don't even need a credit card to get to "choose a seat" and you will see, all the aisle and window seats are taken by default.

You have to pay extra to not get a middle seat.

It's actually a bit annoying to have to explain this to you based on your childish reply.

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by jacobobryant on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:58AM (#20498005)
What airline is this? I haven't noticed this. As long as I get the tickets early enough, there are always window and aisle seats available.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by ukoki on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:06AM (#20498059)
I think it depends on the airline. Most of the budget European airlines I fly with will allocate you a middle-seat by default if one is available when you choose the free "give me a random seat" option at check-in. I presume this is to give away their paid seat inventory as slowly as possible, and also because by giving the passenger the worst available seat you get more value from paying to choose your own seat. Of course: they have a limited number of middle seats to give out so I've found that a good strategy is to check-in five minutes before the online check-in cutoff time which usually yields window/aisle seats and frequently (~30%) exit-row seats.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by bdamm on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:44AM (#20498426)
I prefer window, and I get window basically every time.

Airline "Southwest" allocates most seats based on when you click "check in". If you check in earlier, your boarding position is closer to first, and your chance of getting a desired seat goes way up. You can pay extra to board earlier ("Early bird") for $15. They don't have classes (there is no "first class" or business or coach) but you can pay for other features like cash-refundable tickets or boarding first.

Airline "Delta" simply lets you book your seat, so if you buy reasonable early, you can book a desired seat.

For other airlines, if the cost to upgrade to a window seat is on the order of $10-15, then I do it.

So I think your experience is limited to a small number of airlines, and your description of the OP as "childish" is poor.

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by jamroom on Monday July 22, 2019 @11:25AM (#20498884)
Southwest Airlines early check in is $35 at ticket purchase time or $40 at the gate. When flying with my family that’s an extra $200. I like southwest but this is one thing I really dislike about them.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by bdamm on Monday July 22, 2019 @01:45PM (#20500383)
Perhaps it depends on the flight; mine are always $15.

See https://www.southwest.com/early-bird/

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by mikeash on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:57AM (#20497999)
What airline charges extra for non-middle seats? I’ve never seen that.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by sokoloff on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:25AM (#20498222)
Any airline that sells Basic Economy tickets (without seat pre-assignment) does by allowing seat choice for Economy tickets and above.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by snappieT on Monday July 22, 2019 @04:20PM (#20501941)
In fact, Frontier charges more for the middle seat. I assume this is because middle-seaters are likely to be a couple/family wanting to sit together and forced to pay the premium. No solo traveler would willingly purchase a middle seat, so you don't need to optimize for pricing the middle seats for them.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by sokoloff on Monday July 22, 2019 @06:14PM (#20502798)
Seems this wouldn’t work very well. Pick the aisle and window; middle will always trade IME. If you need three across, book aisle, window, and a nearby aisle and you again have tradable seats.

Or book aisle and aisle for a couple.

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by mikeash on Monday July 22, 2019 @07:28PM (#20503240)
Maybe they’re just picking up a few bucks from people who aren’t this clever.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @08:13AM (#20506086)
I’ve seen this a lot more over the last few years with US carriers. The bottom tier ticket doesn’t let you choose and you have to pay more to get a choice (aisle or window).

It definitely used to be more of a first-book-first-choice policy but now they’re using it as another upsell.

Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by jobigoud on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @03:00AM (#20504975)
Air France and KLM and Lufthansa don't charge more for aisle/window.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by greg5green on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:20AM (#20498180)
This is categorically untrue.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by wavefunction on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:22AM (#20497726)
To whomever can take AND hold the armrest go the spoils of victory. What care I for plaintive cries of "fairness" when nature provided me the means to take the armrest I deserve from less capable arms?
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by cannonedhamster on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:42AM (#20498407)
I bet you get a lot of crotch in the face for your actions. Hot, seething, sweaty crotch from every person in the middle seat. The reason people choose civility is that eventually everyone benefits. Lack of civility immediately makes it worse for everyone. People in planes are already miserable, no reason to make it worse unless you enjoy causing others misery, which says more about you than anyone else.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by panzagl on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:34AM (#20498311)
That's why I always begin a flight by bludgeoning my neighbor into unconsciousness.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by wcarron on Monday July 22, 2019 @04:57PM (#20502263)
I personally smear my own feces on the armrests, having come prepared with plastic arm sleeves so that it doesn't get on me.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by dang on Monday July 22, 2019 @05:01PM (#20502288)
Please don't do this here.
Re:Airlines are finally fixing the middle seat by wcarron on Monday July 22, 2019 @06:33PM (#20502913)
Sorry, won't happen again.