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Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by jasonhansel on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @11:13PM (#20281568)
We shouldn't penalize addiction. But we absolutely should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit.
Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by stunt on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @06:03AM (#20283446)
> we absolutely should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit

Often we end up doing things to make sure they have more profit. I wouldn't be surprised if this e-cigarettes ban is coming from cigarette manufacturers lobbying for it.

Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by m0zg on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @11:18PM (#20281599)
>> should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit

You just sighed a death warrant to HN, and 95% of all corporations that make a profit.

Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by bdamm on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @01:00AM (#20282050)
Agreed; Facebook, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Lays, Twitter, CNN, Fox, Disney, and Purdue are all examples of companies that are taking advantage of people's reward path in a basically addictive way. Maybe 95% in terms of aggregate profit.
Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by EvanWinget on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @08:34AM (#20284295)
This is definitely true for a lot of the major consumer facing software companies.

"Sean Parker, the 38-year-old founding president of Facebook, recently admitted that the social network was founded not to unite us, but to distract us. “The thought process was: ‘How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible?’” he said at an event in Philadelphia in November. To achieve this goal, Facebook’s architects exploited a “vulnerability in human psychology”, explained Parker, who resigned from the company in 2005. Whenever someone likes or comments on a post or photograph, he said, “we… give you a little dopamine hit”. Facebook is an empire of empires, then, built upon a molecule."

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/04/has-dopam...

Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by m0zg on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @01:49AM (#20282228)
Why not Google? There are a lot of kids (including my son) addicted to YouTube. Why not Amazon? There are a lot people addicted to buying stuff they don't need.
Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by bdamm on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @11:09AM (#20285745)
The list is definitely far from comprehensive. Thanks for adding. I think we could add many more especially if you include companies that boost their profits by taking advantage of people by presenting them with a dilemma of immediacy, such as Home Depot and their overpriced key rings, or movie theaters that disallow outside food and make all their money on popcorn and soda.
Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by krtkush on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @04:52AM (#20283066)
Add reddit to it too, IMO.
Re:San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigare... by tejtm on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @03:23AM (#20282607)
so be it. No non corporal entity is entitled to exploit any corporal entity. If they exist at all they should serve all.

Profit is a share of the increased wealth created, not stealing what is because you are invulnerable, soulless and can.