Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by ceejayoz on Friday June 14, 2019 @09:52PM
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They've been reducing ingress points over time. The removal of the headphone jack was at least partially for this reason; so was the non-mechanical home button.
A battery door is a giant potential ingress point for water.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by effingwewt on Friday June 14, 2019 @11:45PM
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No, those are just more ways to stop people from opening their phones and doing things like replacing batteries rather than buying a new phone. There are water resistant phones with headphone jacks, removable batteries etc. Shoot even a plug for potential infress points would be fine. Sorry, I just hate the new anti-consumer trend of irreplaceable batteries. Feels like we are back to the days where every phone had a diff charger port. Anything to make people spend more money than they have to. /rant.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by hiram112 on Friday June 14, 2019 @02:12PM
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I have had rice work several times - maybe it wasn't the rice but just a coincidence.
I should note I left the phone in the rice for a few days, and it still didn't work. So I bought a new phone and forgot about it for a few months. Low and behold, when I did remember it months later, it worked, and did for a year or so more.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by hjk05 on Friday June 14, 2019 @03:20PM
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I have a rock that keeps tigers away, does it work? Well I’ve never had a tiger in my apartment so it must work right?
Correlation is not causation.
You left your phone in rice, but it didn’t work. It didn’t do anything. The water dried just like it would in any setting. And you where lucky to not get any damage from the corrosion.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by rossdavidh on Friday June 14, 2019 @03:16PM
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I, also, have had rice work, albeit not every time (I realize this statement makes it sound like I dunk my phone on a regular basis but honestly I don't). I don't doubt that there are better dessicants out there, but rice is always handy.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday June 14, 2019 @03:17PM
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Digressing slightly, but he mentions the difficulty with trying to clean dried pancake batter...
The trick to cleaning dry pancake batter is to soak the area with water for a few minutes. It'll revert back into a more batter-like texture and will easily wipe off.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by viewtransform on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:39PM
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Is there any solution to water damaged Mac standalone keyboards ? I have several keyboards that were ruined by minor water spills. I don't understand what component in these keyboards gets permanently destroyed by water.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by brokenmachine on Monday June 17, 2019 @02:21AM
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I've used Damp-Rid that they sell in the hardware store before.
I put the device (in my case it was an mp3 player that I ran with in a rainstorm) in a sealed container with the stuff. I left it in there for a few days and it did the job and it worked for about a year afterwards. It still does "work" but the screen is always blank now, so who knows, maybe the corrosion got to it in the end...
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by jimbo1qaz on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:12PM
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Clickbait headline deliberately fails to explain what to use instead of rice.
>What you want to do is first displace the water—or more specifically, all the conductive stuff in the water. You can do this best by using 90%+ isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a toothbrush. Open your device as soon as you can, take out the battery, and get scrubbing. Submerge the whole motherboard in alcohol, and scrub away. Only then, dry it and see where you stand. By getting the liquid displaced before it can dry, we are cleaning the pancake batter on Sunday morning. This is your best strategy for liquid damage.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by Cpoll on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:55PM
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What would you have titled it?
I'm not sure that "Instead of putting your phone in rice, open it up, douse it in 90%+ isopropyl and brush it with a toothbrush to remove the water before it dries" is short enough to be an effective title.
And "To fix a drowned phone, drown it again in isopropyl" is arguably even more click-baity.
In further defense, the comments here show the necessity of a title like this. If the title were "how to fix a drowned phone," many people would say "oh, I know this one, just put it in rice" and ignore the article.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by jimbo1qaz on Friday June 14, 2019 @10:18PM
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Cllickbait witholds information to make you click. This headline is clickbait because it witholds information. "To fix a drowned phone, soak it in isopropyl" is better because it's a summary and conveys information.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by TimTheTinker on Friday June 14, 2019 @01:25PM
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To be clear, the Gazelle article is the incorrect one - it advocates drying the phone first using a desiccant like silica gel or cat litter (though it says rice is the least effective of them). There is no mention of using alcohol (except in some comments).
The iFixit article advocates displacing the water using rubbing alcohol (i.e. open it up and dunk the motherboard/etc. in alcohol) - thus halting the corrosion that would continue if it were left to dry.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by jbarberu on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:18PM
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Yes. With alcohol you're displacing the water. With compressed air you might end up pushing it into new nooks and crannies it wouldn't otherwise have been able to reach.
Re:Don't put your drowned phone into rice to dry it
by TimTheTinker on Friday June 14, 2019 @07:07PM
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Yes, so strictly speaking you're not only displacing the water; you're dissolving it into the alcohol. But assuming you're using more than a tiny bit of alcohol, the water/alcohol ratio of the solution will be minuscule. Furthermore, if you pour alcohol over the components, the new alcohol will displace the just-formed solution.
If only our devices were user-friendly instead of planned obsolescent.
If you drown your iPhone XS, you just wipe it off. Removable batteries mean openings, which means intrusion opportunities.
A battery door is a giant potential ingress point for water.
Commenters: Yes but I put my phone in rice once and it worked, so...
I should note I left the phone in the rice for a few days, and it still didn't work. So I bought a new phone and forgot about it for a few months. Low and behold, when I did remember it months later, it worked, and did for a year or so more.
Correlation is not causation. You left your phone in rice, but it didn’t work. It didn’t do anything. The water dried just like it would in any setting. And you where lucky to not get any damage from the corrosion.
The trick to cleaning dry pancake batter is to soak the area with water for a few minutes. It'll revert back into a more batter-like texture and will easily wipe off.
I put the device (in my case it was an mp3 player that I ran with in a rainstorm) in a sealed container with the stuff. I left it in there for a few days and it did the job and it worked for about a year afterwards. It still does "work" but the screen is always blank now, so who knows, maybe the corrosion got to it in the end...
>What you want to do is first displace the water—or more specifically, all the conductive stuff in the water. You can do this best by using 90%+ isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a toothbrush. Open your device as soon as you can, take out the battery, and get scrubbing. Submerge the whole motherboard in alcohol, and scrub away. Only then, dry it and see where you stand. By getting the liquid displaced before it can dry, we are cleaning the pancake batter on Sunday morning. This is your best strategy for liquid damage.
I'm not sure that "Instead of putting your phone in rice, open it up, douse it in 90%+ isopropyl and brush it with a toothbrush to remove the water before it dries" is short enough to be an effective title.
And "To fix a drowned phone, drown it again in isopropyl" is arguably even more click-baity.
In further defense, the comments here show the necessity of a title like this. If the title were "how to fix a drowned phone," many people would say "oh, I know this one, just put it in rice" and ignore the article.
Thumbnail is a picture of a guy in SCUBA gear holding a phone and looking shocked. The phone is circled in red for some reason.
[1]: https://youtu.be/yPeITOz2_YM
The iFixit article advocates displacing the water using rubbing alcohol (i.e. open it up and dunk the motherboard/etc. in alcohol) - thus halting the corrosion that would continue if it were left to dry.