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Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by strictnein on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:32AM (#20172312)
It's strange. There's two version of this story going around. Kind of the mainstream media version, and the version from the "hackers" themselves.

Pitchfork does a good job of following up on the second version, which may be the more accurate of the two:

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/radiohead-fans-vs-black-marke...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA8u6UhjbutZ-b7TXzmX4qkO...

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by alien1993 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @03:29AM (#20172521)
It's probably because they announced it like this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BykT-NOA6_m/?igshid=6nm3aw87qo8d

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by staticautomatic on Thursday June 13, 2019 @09:39AM (#20174705)
I am disappointed to learn that Radiohead has an Instagram account.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by justwalt on Thursday June 13, 2019 @09:53AM (#20174835)
Most active bands do. It doesn’t say much other than “we’d like to reach our audience.”
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by and0 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @10:25AM (#20175155)
Radiohead were pioneers in social media announcements, between the sudden pay-what-you-want digital release of In Rainbows to, as far as I know, inventing social media blackout / cryptic profile picture shenanigans.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by staticautomatic on Thursday June 13, 2019 @10:58AM (#20175502)
My point is only this: If in 1997 you'd told me that the people who wrote OK Computer would later be unashamedly using a world-dominating platform built by fitter happier people whose ambition, I was told, makes them look pretty ugly, I would not have believed you.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by majormajor on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:24PM (#20176908)
Remember you're talking about a very popular band that was making full use of 90s world-dominating mainstream media platforms that were run by douchebags then too.

But now we're in Tool territory instead of Radiohead territory https://genius.com/Tool-hooker-with-a-penis-lyrics

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by staticautomatic on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:44PM (#20177084)
Is your point that I shouldn't be surprised because they've always been hypocrites in this regard?
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by dondawest on Saturday June 15, 2019 @12:14PM (#20190630)
I’m fully in agreement with you dude. Hypocrisy among artists who take a stand is hella annoying. It’s like the White Stripes swearing they’d never get a bass player, only to get a bass player.

They literally made an album describing in detail how technology was bad for humans and now they are beholden to the same technology they once critiqued.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday June 13, 2019 @11:48AM (#20176002)
> a world-dominating platform built by fitter happier people

... I guess I need an Instagram account.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by staticautomatic on Thursday June 13, 2019 @12:11PM (#20176231)
Is that sarcasm or have you just never listened to Fitter Happier?
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by ficklepickle on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:44PM (#20177549)
Angsty young artists either become better adjusted to their environment as they get older, or they die.

It happens all the time as bands age. The inner turmoil makes for great art, but it isn't sustainable.

It doesn't make the art any less real.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by Dirlewanger on Thursday June 13, 2019 @11:19AM (#20175683)
Not everyone has Fugazi-esque morals.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by asdff on Thursday June 13, 2019 @12:22PM (#20176346)
Radiohead did when they released hail to the thief.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by steveklabnik on Thursday June 13, 2019 @12:24PM (#20176363)
Fun story: I purchased In Rainbows in order to support this general idea. I think I paid $10.

I never ended up actually listening to it.

I wonder how many other people did the same.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by patorjk on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:25PM (#20176923)
I was a big fan at the time and paid $0, I read later that most people did the same but that a good amount of people did pay money, and the album was more profitable than their previous album. I felt a little bad and later bought the physical copy when it was released. It's either the best, or second best Radiohead album. It's definitely worth listening too.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by leesec on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:03PM (#20176722)
But it's the best Radiohead album!
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by misiti3780 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:14PM (#20176823)
I respectfully disagree, OK Computer is the best album!
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by davidjnelson on Saturday June 15, 2019 @01:55AM (#20188584)
Ok computer is amazing but I still like kid a the best.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by reitanqild on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:19PM (#20176870)
Some people, like GP, or me, might pay for something just to reward a step in the right direction.

Band I don't listen to releasing music I don't listen to in a way I prefer might be a step in the direction towards band-I-listen-to releasing music in a way I prefer.

Basic psychology. Works on pigeons and what not, as proven by B.F. Skinner.

But I am unconvinced when it comes to the content industry, I'm not sure we can repeat the success from the pigeons on them ;-)

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by lloeki on Friday June 14, 2019 @02:42PM (#20185517)
They did a garage take/video project called Scotch Mist which is somewhat better.

https://youtu.be/ukythkK4EPQ

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by SmellyGeekBoy on Thursday June 13, 2019 @05:18AM (#20172993)
This version makes a lot more sense than the "blackmail" story I keep hearing on the news. Thanks for the links.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by duxup on Thursday June 13, 2019 @12:27PM (#20176395)
It seems like hacking and then demanding payment or someone releases the data isn't that uncommon / unlikely.

Is there some reason not to buy into that?

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by huis on Thursday June 13, 2019 @03:08AM (#20172436)
Yes this also fits the note on Basecamp: "as it’s out there it may as well be out there".

I don't think they would say this if a hacker was holding it back for ransom.

So the hacker tried to sell it for $150000 but now everyone can buy it for $18.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by sosuke on Thursday June 13, 2019 @10:09AM (#20174995)
In that doc there is a "hidden" (white text on white background) msg about the versions being different still.

https://i.imgur.com/6Jo3Q7h.png

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by StavrosK on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:29AM (#20173345)
I'm confused, did the band release the material or did the fake Hoserama?
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by LeifCarrotson on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:59AM (#20173890)
1. The band had a 3rd party digitize some old tapes.

2. Someone at that 3rd party copied and leaked the data.

3. One of the recipients (or the leaker) posed as Hoserama and tried to extort/sell/release them for $$$.

4. The band chose to release them for $, undercutting the fake.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by redlorryyellow on Thursday June 13, 2019 @09:01AM (#20174367)
3. is incorrect. the leaker wasn't trying to extort, he was trying to sell individual tracks. He then just released the whole thing online, posing as Hoserama, to try and save face. So we have had the leaks for over a week now.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by toyg on Thursday June 13, 2019 @08:40AM (#20174183)
> Someone at that 3rd party copied and leaked the data.

Or someone broke into the 3rd party infrastructure and made out with the data. Music-related businesses are not exactly renowned for their cybersecurity standards. We'll probably never know.

Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by hoorayimhelping on Thursday June 13, 2019 @08:59AM (#20174353)
Number 2 is pure speculation and you should mention that instead of passing it off as fact.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by LeifCarrotson on Thursday June 13, 2019 @10:21AM (#20175123)
Sorry, too late to edit. You're right, much of this (all three points?) are speculation/hearsay/guesses. I'm just summarizing what's been reported, I don't have any special inside information.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by StavrosK on Thursday June 13, 2019 @08:09AM (#20173958)
That clarifies it, thanks. I missed a lot, I must have not read the article entirely.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by tomglynch on Thursday June 13, 2019 @04:48AM (#20172859)
It's wrong to even refer to them as 'hackers'. There's one 'leaker' and the group of people that first found out about this.
Re:Radiohead sells recordings to public after hacker threate... by natechols on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:54PM (#20177622)
How about we refer to them as "thieves"?