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Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by herf on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:38PM (#19922954)
f.lux author here. I'm pasting parts of the 458 page PDF into Google Translate.

The recommendations look very good, and don't particularly match the Yahoo article.

1. They recommend IEEE 1789 as a flicker standard for Europe, which is fantastic, as it covers lower levels of stroboscopic flicker that other standards have missed. (e.g., typical 120Hz flicker from direct-wire TLEDs)

2. They re-state the "acute" hazard from extremely bright LEDs, while urging some caution on "chronic exposure" to lower light levels. Suggest that some automotive lights could be a problem since they have high luminance. Urge more research on progression of macular degeneration and chronic exposure. The question about acute levels refers to a paper by Hunter [2012]. Nobody is saying that screens or residential lights pose a new problem.

3. Circadian recommendations are solid - more light during the day, and reduce light around 480nm at night. Pregnant women and children may have lower thresholds.

4. Say most ophthalmic lenses filtering blue light don't do very much, and specialized ones (you'd say very orange or red) are required for circadian effects.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by thinkling on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:56PM (#19923102)
> "Nobody is saying that screens or residential lights pose a new problem."

This right here is the key for most people.

Thanks for f.lux, by the way, have been running it for years!

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by eecsninja on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:39AM (#19926169)
I had a travel plug adapter (for conversion between US/UK/EU-style) that had a bright blue LED on it to indicate power.

I don't know who thought the choice of blue was a good idea, because as a travel adapter, it would be plugged into the hotel room where the user would be sleeping. /facepalm

I ended up taping a piece of paper over the LED.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by justasitsounds on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:34AM (#19926410)
I came here to grumble about exactly this

(edit: 'I')

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by hnick on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @08:57PM (#19925223)
When I changed ISPs I also changed my modem, which is in the closet in our master bedroom. It's brighter than a disco so I bought some light dimmer stickers. It's still too bright so once I remember where I put them, I'm going to add another layer. It's ridiculous. The only upside is that they are green instead of blue, thankfully.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by Nition on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @10:45PM (#19925719)
The Asus RT-AC1900 router (and probably others) has a button on the back to turn all the LEDs on or off. Would be nice if everything had that. I'm sure it's caused some customer confusion at some point but it resets to the lights being on when it's rebooted.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by waste_monk on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:42AM (#19926182)
My router (an Archer, can't recall the model) has a "night mode" configurable where the LEDs are disabled during a given time range.

I haven't bothered to turn it on since it lives in the hallway, but at least the option is available.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by glennericksen on Thursday May 16, 2019 @11:29AM (#19929906)
Thanks for sharing this. I checked my router config and found the option to turn off LED lights except power. A more elegant solution than electrical tape I had been using before.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by buckminster on Thursday May 16, 2019 @11:31AM (#19929916)
Modern TVs often have an on-screen menu option to turn off annoying LEDs.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by knodi123 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @11:03PM (#19925794)
interestingly, the human eye is most sensitive to green light, in the sense of perceived-brightness-per-lumen.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by londons_explore on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:50AM (#19928069)
Notably, while green LED's exist, we haven't yet managed to make an efficient green LED.

If we had, then illuminating streets etc. with green LED's would save a lot of electricity for the same perceived brightness.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by eveningcoffee on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:05AM (#19929150)
It is good then that we have not. Green light is the most ugliest kind in my opinion.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by hnick on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @11:32PM (#19925927)
I didn't know that! Maybe that's why it's so annoying. My reference to blue was the common belief (fact?) that blue light messes with wakefulness hormones and isn't a good idea around bedtime (hence f.lux).
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by londons_explore on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:49AM (#19928060)
A lumen is already a measure of perceived brightness.

You can have a 10 watt UV light, but you can't have a 10 lumen UV light for example.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by knodi123 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:16PM (#19935207)
oops, I meant radiant flux instead of lumens.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by simcop2387 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @10:20PM (#19925613)
Black car touch up paint is what I usually use. Either that or nail polish.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by jaggederest on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @10:36PM (#19925680)
It's hard to go wrong with electrical tape. I haven't found an LED that could shine through it yet.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by copperx on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:03AM (#19926278)
Electrical tape was useless on my ASUS router with its blinding blue LEDs. Three layers didn't even get rid of the problem, because the lights are so bright that they shine through the white plastic casing of the router. It's incredibly annoying. I finally placed the router inside a cereal box.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by waiseristy on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:11AM (#19926067)
Electrical tape turns to goop after a few months(years), black duct tape lasts slightly longer
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by justinclift on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @10:54PM (#19925758)
Same here. Black electrical tape. Also useful on laptop/monitor/tablet/phone webcams and mics. :)
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by sarego on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:49AM (#19926219)
I just installed f.lux. It is almost midnight here. As soon as it installed and my screen tuned almost yellow I can immediately feel the strain on my eyes disappear and replaced with a coolness. This is incredible software. I will probably use this the rest of my life.Thank you!
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by copperx on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:59AM (#19926262)
I hope f.lux becomes irrelevant once dark mode becomes the standard in all devices. If the web catches on and if our screens become OLED (or use any technology where dark pixels aren't illuminated), then "night mode" will be seen as a crazy hack.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by WorldMaker on Thursday May 16, 2019 @03:35PM (#19932252)
"Night mode" is still useful with Dark Mode. In most applications Dark Mode still uses plenty blues and greens for accent colors and often strong whites for text colors. Even if fewer overall pixels are dedicated to those colors, it's still useful to color shift them away from blue in the evenings.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by Tempest1981 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @02:22AM (#19926634)
How do you like viewing maps in dark mode? I tried Apple's Maps app on macOS, and it felt weird -- like navigating at night. Otherwise, dark mode seems good.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by chrisfinne on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @07:41PM (#19924848)
f.lux changed my life.

Always thought I was just a night person. After decades of late-night coding, f.lux educated me about blue light and allowed me to rejoin the living.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by equalunique on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:06PM (#19932574)
>4. Say most ophthalmic lenses filtering blue light don't do very much, and specialized ones (you'd say very orange or red) are required for circadian effects.

I have had years of success averting personal blue-light issues using what probably falls into the "specialized" lenses category: Uvex S1933X glasses. They came in a 3-pack on Amazon for around $25. The pairs are next to my bed, on my desk, and in my backpack. Inexpensive enough to where I won't loose sleep over breaking a pair. Good not just for device screens, but also for the annoying bright blue power buttons/indicators on just about every other peripheral.

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by mleonhard on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:06AM (#19936170)
I just wish the Uvex glasses were more comfortable.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by homarp on Friday May 17, 2019 @09:25AM (#19939345)
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by sigi45 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:11AM (#19927080)
Do you have by any chance a proper spectrometer? After all you developed f.lux?

Would you be able to share images on what the real difference is with and without f.lux? And also the ophthalmic lenses? I just got some so i'm quite curious :)

Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by blencdr on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:13AM (#19926320)
Thank you ! f.lux is a blessing, i use it since a few years and if it happens to use a computer on the evening without it I feel assaulted with agressive blue light.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by pcdoodle on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:07PM (#19923206)
Respect. Love your software.
Re:LED light can damage eyes, French health authority warns by vbuwivbiu on Thursday May 16, 2019 @03:55AM (#19927006)
another thankyou for f.lux here!