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Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by acallaghan on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:22AM (#19898102)
No it's because he's a rape suspect in Sweden - it's not a giant conspiracy or 'a grab', he's just a suspect that ran away from the law.

The USA have already requested his extradition in the UK - to say that "Sweden only sought rape charges because then the USA can extradite him from Sweden" is clearly bogus.

If he actually confronted these charges in Sweden, and found guilty, he may actually be out of prison by now.

And at the centre of all of this, that everyone seems to have forgotten, are these two women that have accused him of rape. It seems really inhumane and unjust to simply shrug these accusations off as political, and not that they might be telling the truth, and he's a criminal in Swedish law

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by sedeki on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:29AM (#19898149)
”And at the centre of all of this, that everyone seems to have forgotten, are these two women that have accused him of rape.”

As far as I know, and at least Assange has claimed this publicly in a video at least once, these two women themselves did not make rape charges against Assange.

The case was picked up by some prosecutor who initiated the charges.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by SiempreViernes on Monday May 13, 2019 @08:07AM (#19898435)
They did in fact file rape charges, but as is common they didn't do it immediately but after talking about the event with friends.

They have also, wisely avoiding much of the media, enlisted a lawyer to speak on their behalf on the matter, and it was the lawyers filing that led to the investigation being reopened again.

For a pretty complete chronology, see this page on the Swedish prosecution authority: https://www.aklagare.se/en/news-and-press/media/the-assange-...

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by Maxious on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:50AM (#19898296)
One of the victims' lawyer said a month ago when he left the embassy they still wanted to re-open the case:

"We are going to do everything we possibly can to get the swedish police investigation re-opened so that Assange can be extradited to Sweden and prosecuted for rape. No rape victim should have to wait 9 years to see justice be served." https://twitter.com/ElisabethMFritz/status/11162929511251804...

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by DanBC on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:52AM (#19898313)
"Pressing charges" may be a thing in US law, but it isn't elsewhere.

In many jurisdictions prosecutors don't need the permission, nor cooperation, of the victims to bring a case to court. This is especially important in crimes of sexual violence because the fear of retribution causes many victims not to report; and because some victims will be being coercively controlled by their partners.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by learc83 on Monday May 13, 2019 @10:00AM (#19899299)
It's not a thing in US law either (at least in the states I'm aware of). "Do you want to press charges" is just a colloquialism that means "do you want the prosecutor to press charges, and will you cooperate as a witness."

In less serious cases the victim's wishes are taken into account. However, the prosecutor is the one who charges the accused, and consent or cooperation from the victim isn't needed. It is hard to convict in cases where an uncooperative victim is the only witness, but it happens in domestic abuse cases all the time.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by dragonwriter on Monday May 13, 2019 @09:05AM (#19898815)
In most legal systems, the initiation of criminal charges is the exclusive domain of public prosecutors, so this seems like one of those statements of Assange’s that is both strictly true (in this case, because it is impossible for it to be any other way) and also deliberately misleading, like the one that his internet was cut by “a state actor”.
Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by moorhosj on Monday May 13, 2019 @09:01AM (#19898784)
Is Assange a reliable narrator in this instance?
Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by krageon on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:28AM (#19898140)
> clearly bogus

It is not clearly bogus. It was a concern. The concern might be wrong, as they often are. That doesn't make it somehow not legitimate.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by lostjohnny on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:30AM (#19898158)
Even if it was true, what's wrong with that?

He would be sent to USA to respond of his alleged crimes in front of a public court of justice.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by kermitismyhero on Monday May 13, 2019 @11:01AM (#19899935)
>He would be sent to USA to respond of his alleged crimes in front of a public court of justice.

Haha, no. He'd be sent to a secret FISA Star Chamber. There's no way he'd be tried in public.

And if the Swedish authorities wanted Assange to answer for alleged crimes in Sweden, all they had to do was publicly declare that they wouldn't extradite Assange to the US. That was the sole requirement he had made of the Swedish authorities in exchange for his willingness to return to Sweden. The fact that the Swedish authorities refused even that is deeply suspicious.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by dragonwriter on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:01PM (#19900607)
> He'd be sent to a secret FISA Star Chamber.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review only are empowered to handle foreign intelligence surveillance warrant process.

Criminal charges are handled in US District Courts, and are Constitutionally guaranteed to be public.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by kermitismyhero on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:25PM (#19900867)
>Criminal charges are handled in US District Courts, and are Constitutionally guaranteed to be public.

If you think that the US DOJ hasn't spent a million man-hours to find some way to keep everything as secret as possible, you haven't been paying attention to their actions thus far. They will find some way to kangaroo-court him out of the public eye. They do it with foreign nationals all the time.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by dragonwriter on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:42PM (#19901035)
> If you think that the US DOJ hasn't spent a million man-hours to find some way to keep everything as secret as possible, you haven't been paying attention to their actions thus far.

I'm pretty sure that they have neither spent that many man-hours nor would get much value from spending anywhere close to that, because the parameters of “as secret as possible” are, while always subject to further litigation around the borders, not so mysterious or difficult to assess that it would take that much work to get a solid idea both where the boundaries were and what the relative risks of various ways of probing the areas where there is remaining uncertainty.

> They will find some way to kangaroo-court him out of the public eye. They do it with foreign nationals all the time.

Not with foreign nationals subjected to formal criminal extradition they don't. Foreign, allegedly unawful, combatants detained by the US military or transferred to their custody by America’s cobelligerents in the context of military conflict, all completely outside of the civilian criminal justice system, sure; foreign parties where the government covertly intervenes with overseas regimes to detain them without involving the US criminal justice system to, that too. But none of those are applicable here.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by ivarb on Monday May 13, 2019 @12:07PM (#19900685)
It's actually not suspicious. It is simply not something the authorities can legally do.
Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by lostjohnny on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:27AM (#19907994)
Swedish have no obligation to say what Assange wants to hear.

It's not a trade, he allegedly raped a girl, that's his problem.

If I was Assange I would want my name clear on rape allegations, I wuoldn't run away from it.

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by aliswe on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:06PM (#19930234)
Okay, now I get it. They cancelled prosecuting him because he couldn't be reached. But now they can.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/aklagaren-vill-hava-haktn...

Re:Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extrad... by colordrops on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:33AM (#19898174)
If it's such a problem why don't you advocate for getting the laws changed in the US? While his alleged actions are shady, they are not illegal in the US, so anyone who plays the humanity angle without also suggesting changing US law is just using it for political purposes.