Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @04:21AM (#19856895)

sorry, I thought I was clear in suggesting it as a law - although realistically in a lot of EU countries you could make the case and get it returned.

For example I'm in Denmark and we have a consumer ombudsmand were you can make complaints about violations of your rights as a consumer https://www.consumerombudsman.dk/about-us/ (it talks about marketing but I the Nest was marketed to have functionality it no longer has), in fact there may already be sort of an Ombudsmand ruling that pertains here https://www.consumerombudsman.dk/media/46530/2016-memorandum... which says you can return something after your normal right of return but you are liable for diminished value - so you would not get the full refund in this case but something.

Of course I think that an actual complaint on this subject would result in a memorandum that you can get your full refund.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @09:54AM (#19858808)

Update - I had an opportunity to ask someone who definitely knows exactly what the rules are in Denmark and they said that if Google refused to refund you would have to take them to court but they are also certain that any eventual legal process would find Google liable for refunding as long as the Nest was ever marketed for its now no longer functioning capabilities.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by xeromal on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @09:37AM (#19858664)

You should probably throw the word "Proposal" in your original post somewhere. It's not clear.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @09:51AM (#19858782)

looks like edit window is gone

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by tiredyam on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @04:47AM (#19857019)

This law would end up hurting the upstarts. Alternatives should be made and the consumer should be picking winners with their dollar.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by sitharus on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @06:26AM (#19857507)

The problem is you’ve voted with your dollar already. You’ve looked at the market and selected the one that meets your needs. Then the maker changes what you’ve purchased.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by Fnoord on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @07:27AM (#19857805)

Yeah, it would end up hurting the upstarts, but the lack of this law hurts customers and hurts business on the long term because consumer trust evaporates.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by Krasnol on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @05:13AM (#19857145)

Or, they could build it in a way where it can be modified (for self hosting for example) in the first place.

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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @06:34AM (#19857544)

that's what I meant with simple to change, basically.

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