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Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by teekert on Thursday May 02, 2019 @12:27PM (#19809622)
I often get reminded by apps that "This app will not function when play services has no access to: Contacts, calendar, call history (and about 5 more things)". I once turned everything I though to be unnecessary off from the settings. Indeed nothing ever stopped working correctly but many things started nagging me periodically, while functioning perfectly.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by xvector on Thursday May 02, 2019 @01:12PM (#19810074)
I just stopped using Android after shit like this. Privacy is an afterthought at best, despite the great new permissions model.

And it's absolutely not Android's fault as much it is app developers' faults. Want to use an app that tracks your dreams? Most devs will have you sign up for their terrible service so they can store the information in plaintext on a server.

At least with iOS most devs seem to opt for CloudKit with E2E encryption. Privacy seems more wired into the iOS ecosystem than Android.

Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by Faark on Thursday May 02, 2019 @04:21PM (#19812409)
> And it's absolutely not Android's fault as much it is app developers' faults

I do see it as a shortcoming of android that i cannot redirect unwanted capabilities into a harmless sandbox version of those.

Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by taneq on Thursday May 02, 2019 @09:39PM (#19814734)
Privacy Guard on LineageOS does exactly that. It's not Android, it's Google.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by chefandy on Thursday May 02, 2019 @01:34PM (#19810343)
Not sure why this would be down-voted, unless people are really just that tribalistic about phone/tablet OS choice.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by mehrdadn on Thursday May 02, 2019 @02:27PM (#19810968)
Didn't downvote, but Android has had dynamic permissions (since v6?) whose repeated notifications you can suppress, so I'm confused if the comment is still valid.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by xvector on Thursday May 02, 2019 @06:56PM (#19813750)
Kind of misses the point - I do mention the robust permission system in Android.

The issue is that the developers themselves don't really seem to care as much about privacy etc as iOS developers. This effectively renders the privacy measures mostly meaningless. If I'm writing my dreams into your app and you can read them on your own server, I've already lost all semblance of privacy.

Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by dylan604 on Thursday May 02, 2019 @04:47PM (#19812708)
In the light of the recent story on how YouTube and Google Docs put up banners about not working with IE6, I would not put it past them to do something similar any time the user did something that Google did not like.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by DEADBEEFC0FFEE on Thursday May 02, 2019 @05:57PM (#19813374)
That IE story was specifically about YouTubers during the transition to Google. A story about how they used a legacy YouTube permissions role to circumvent process and oversight.
Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by dylan604 on Thursday May 02, 2019 @06:27PM (#19813573)
It also specifically talked about Google Docs team doing the same thing which people at the time attributed to being first. This is what provided cover for the YT team.

Not sure if you're trying to provide defensive cover to Google with your comment or not, but it clearly goes to show they are not above these kind of dark UI patterns.

Re:Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location a... by Dylan16807 on Friday May 03, 2019 @01:45AM (#19815868)
A one-time banner is not a dark UI pattern, jeez.