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Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by tylerl on Friday April 26, 2019 @11:51PM (#19763666)
I was originally going to argue with it being "just a matter of time" -- there is such a thing as good security practices. It's certainly not "just a matter of time" before Microsoft or Google see such compromises. I'm pretty confident that these companies have their sh*t in order.

But no, not Docker.

You're totally right; with as important as their registry is to well funded attackers, and as startup-y and "agile" as they are, and as godawful as the security practices are that underlie their tools and standards... they hadn't a chance. They still don't.

There is no reason to expect them to get better.

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by lowpro on Friday April 26, 2019 @11:57PM (#19763684)
Fun fact, there was a universal XSS vulnerability on google (including search, support, accounts, cloud, etc) found just last week [0]. I'd say it's always just a matter of time. That doesn't mean they don't have everything in order, but securing everything as much as possible is half the battle. The other half is a solid response when things do happen, which we will now see in how Docker handles this situation.

[0] https://twitter.com/WHHackersBR/status/1118393568656334850

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by acct1771 on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:08AM (#19763723)
And do we ever find out how much that was being exploited "in the wild"?
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by bartimus on Saturday April 27, 2019 @03:31AM (#19764339)
You'd want the XSS vulnerability to be on accounts.google.com. Much more to do before you can successfully exploit it. You still need to get people to come to your malicious page that exploits it. Then it's the question if your attack won't show up on Google's radars for abnormal behavior. Most likely for Google's security - since their landscape is so big - XSS vulnerabilities are considered a given. Then as soon as abnormal behavior is detected Google gets to discover the XSS vulnerability.
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by simondedalus on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:20AM (#19763758)
we grit our teeth and "believe" that anyone traceably affected got an email directly from the company or something :D

(that said, google main page vulnerable to xss is kind of like... what, we're afraid someone will take over google and put some cryptominers on the google.com main page?)

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by dlitz on Saturday April 27, 2019 @06:26AM (#19764842)
Well, a compromised google.com main page could return malicious search results for certain queries. How many Windows sysadmins install PuTTY by googling "putty", and then installing an executable from whatever site shows up in the first couple of results?...
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by Piskvorrr on Sunday April 28, 2019 @03:19AM (#19769831)
If the primary install method is "search and download whatever manually from the internet," you have bigger issues than a potential Google compromise: create a site with better ranking than the canonical HTTP (!) download page, MITM the HTTP download, whatever.
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by WrtCdEvrydy on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:37AM (#19763800)
The Microsoft Approach... 'people totally didn't access your email body... except we eventually owned up to it after it got leaked'
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by mehrdadn on Saturday April 27, 2019 @01:07AM (#19763903)
Where did they deny that anybody's email bodies were read? I'm looking for it and I can't find it. I only see that they told the other 94%(?) of people that unauthorized access did not reveal the contents of their messages in particular, which seems to be truthful?
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by WrtCdEvrydy on Saturday April 27, 2019 @01:19AM (#19763937)
Initial email said the body wasn't affected, and motherboard asked for a confirmation, so they said 'Yes'.

6% of the people received a specific email saying the body of their email was accessed and they had to backtrack.

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by mehrdadn on Saturday April 27, 2019 @01:28AM (#19763959)
Well the email said:

> This unauthorized access could have allowed unauthorized parties to access and/or view information related to your email account (such as your e-mail address, folder names, the subject lines of e-mails, and the names of other e-mail addresses you communicate with), but not the content of any e-mails or attachments, between January 1st 2019 and March 28th 2019.

Notice it says your email account. The whole email is about the account of the recipient, not those of other recipients. Given that they explicitly worded it this way and people clearly misinterpreted it to mean something else, I hope you can forgive me for being a little skeptical of third-party anecdotes that suggest Microsoft claimed nobody's email contents were accessed...

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by azinman2 on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:59AM (#19763877)
“We are enhancing our overall security processes and reviewing our policies. Additional monitoring tools are now in place.”

Why wasn’t that the case before?!

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by DCoder on Saturday April 27, 2019 @03:57AM (#19764420)
Because "Security is a journey, not a destination".

There's always a way to enhance your processes, monitor more indicators, etc. or otherwise improve your security.

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by mfatica on Saturday April 27, 2019 @01:22AM (#19763950)
Sometimes you don't know what to monitor until you know the attack vector. We are only human
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by k_sze on Saturday April 27, 2019 @01:54AM (#19764032)
1. Because humans aren’t perfect. 2. Because mistakes happen. 3. Because there’s a cost to everything: if you want better security, it’s going to cost you more, immediately. And we don’t always estimate trade-offs correctly (see points 1 and 2).
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by joshbaptiste on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:01PM (#19766158)
Exactly.. life in general is about constant refinement.. if today's hacker could time travel to 1999, she would be in a nirvana of Bind, SSHv1, Apache, IIS etc.. vulnerabilities. Hacks happen and we learn and improve, even down to the language being used.. a la Rust.
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by cabaalis on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:09AM (#19763727)
You are aware that Google identified a vulnerability so awful that they hid it from the public so as not to draw government scrutiny, did not retain access logs, and ultimately shut down a major public application?

It wasn't authentication credentials, but still.

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by Scoundreller on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:37AM (#19763799)
Which vulnerability was this?
Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by wahern on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:42AM (#19763823)
Presumably the Google+ exfiltration issue.

> The bigger problem for Google isn’t the crime, but the cover-up. The vulnerability was fixed in March, but Google didn’t come clean until seven months later when The Wall Street Journal got hold of some of the memos discussing the bug. The company seems to know it messed up — why else nuke an entire social network off the map? — but there’s real confusion about exactly what went wrong and when, a confusion that plays into deeper issues in how tech deals with this kind of privacy slip.

(https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/9/17957312/google-plus-vuln...)

Re:Docker Hub Hacked – 190k accounts, GitHub tokens revoked,... by simondedalus on Saturday April 27, 2019 @12:16AM (#19763747)
it is of course just a matter of time for either of the companies you mentioned to "be hacked" (obviously it's happened countless times with Microsoft, both the OS and their cloud services like O365, and there was a recent high profile revelation that the google apps suite APIs exposed user info to developers). the difference is incident response and layered security.

as long as you're using software somewhere in the stack that isn't like maturity level 5, AND you don't have constant audits looking for novel attacks on working-as-intended systems, you're pretty much guaranteed to inherit (or create) a vulnerability at some point, and if you're important enough it will get exploited. the reason that doesn't mean we should start modeling computer systems as "living organisms that eventually get old and die" and should keep modeling security like war is that when you get hit, you can respond. all the layers matter, and insofar as Microsoft or Google do it right, they primarily do it right by having a mature process for monitoring, patching, isolating, etc.

as for docker hub though, yeah i'm totally with you. i'm just saying we shouldn't overestimate the preventive capacity of anyone, honestly. if you're doing anything important over the internet at all, you're making some compromises somewhere.

here are 2 links to things i handwaved at above, for example's sake:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-email-hack-outlook-hot...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2018/10/09/goog...