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Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by AYBABTME on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:12PM (#19617459)
That's straight up racist.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:23PM (#19617560)
Maybe I'm not easily triggered enough but generally speaking when one says "the Chinese" or "the Nigerians' or "the Russians" in a discussion that's about international relations, geopolitics or similar, I tend to think they're talking about the nation and its government, not the people themselves.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by AYBABTME on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:34PM (#19617657)
If that's the case, the distinction was subtle enough for me to miss, and probably a lot of others. It isn't hard to say "the Chinese government" if that's what parent meant. Instead saying "the Chinese" in response to an article about a Chinese company's product is clearly ambiguous. I don't see how it's okay to gratuitously say anything about "the Chinese" as if that was somehow a valid, well defined and understood group that warrants being judged and stereotyped in such a wide manner.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by bllguo on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:44PM (#19617761)
But it blurs the distinction and it normalizes thinking about the Chinese people and the Chinese gov't in similar ways. Honestly I think it's irresponsible and naive - let's not pretend there isn't a rising undercurrent of anti-Chinese sentiment in the West.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by JamesBarney on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @03:58PM (#19618361)
All the rising anti-Chinese sentiment I've seen seems mostly geopolitical and not ethnic.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by shawnz on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:13PM (#19617477)
I assume they meant the Chinese government, not the Chinese people.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by diminoten on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:24PM (#19617575)
I think you're assuming some positive intent here that's definitely helpful to the conversation, but may not actually exist in this specific case.

For our part, I think us sane people can all agree that it's the PLC that we are suspicious of, whereas the people of (and from) China are wonderful people.

Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by drusepth on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:15PM (#19617500)
Is that any less racist?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by mikestew on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:27PM (#19617598)
I say this without even the slightest hint of snark: are you sure you really know what that word means, and the dichotomy of race and government?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by Moodles on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:23PM (#19617571)
Yes, it is a lot less racist actually. Are you serious?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by willhk on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:23PM (#19617563)
How is being aware of and concerned about the activities of a government racist?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by EpicEng on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:35PM (#19617667)
...Yes, because the Chinese government is not a race? Obviously?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by TomMarius on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:17PM (#19617511)
It's not racist at all, it's nationalist if anything.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by T800M101 on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:24PM (#19617574)
The fact that national governments aren't to be trusted is not racist. Your implication and terribly bad misapplication of the word "racist" is more disturbing than someone not trusting said foreign government.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by ryanlol on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @03:06PM (#19617939)
Well, most of the Chinese people don't really seem to mind the fact that their government runs literal concentration camps. Perhaps it's fair to criticize them?
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by lawnchair_larry on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @03:00PM (#19617883)
It has nothing to do with race. Stop throwing around that word.
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by Dirlewanger on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:18PM (#19617526)
Yeah, those military divisions that they have that are constantly pinging virtually every IP address in the world looking for vulnerabilities...they surely have good in their heart!
Re:NSA-style backdoor in Huawei laptops found by Microsoft by monocasa on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @02:25PM (#19617587)
I mean... All of the major governments do that, it's just IPs of botnets always tend to be Chinese or Russian since those tend to be the unpatched systems.