Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by petermcneeley on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:19PM
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What is the legality of emulating proprietary hardware like this?
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Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by idonotknowwhy on Sunday March 17, 2019 @11:09PM
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Sony don't seem to mind anymore, considering the Playstation Classic console uses the opensource pcsx emulator:
https://www.dualshockers.com/playstation-classic-emulator-pc...
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by Tsubasachan on Monday March 18, 2019 @01:08PM
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Sony doesn't seem to care about emulation of old systems. The reality is that old games doesn't bring in much money for them and the people who run emulators are a niche.
Piracy of the PS4 would get their attention.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by tom_ on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:24PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console_emulator#Le... has some notes and links to court cases.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:41PM
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TL;DR emulators are legal, as long as you use game files you have legally acquired by buying the game and dumping it yourself. Using game files from online is illegal.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by Orphis on Sunday March 17, 2019 @05:08PM
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It can be fine as well if it can legally be downloaded. For example, it's possible to get the official firmware directly from Sony or play some homebrew software.
And I'm sure it's possible to find some game demos as well.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by lostgame on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:34PM
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They do have a tendency to chase after those who are emulating active systems as opposed to deprecated consoles.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by delroth on Sunday March 17, 2019 @06:16PM
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Not even. There was an emulator for the Wii U while the console was still seeing new releases, and no "chasing" happened. Similarly, there are at least 2 Switch emulators in development, and I haven't heard of any legal trouble from their side. Same for the 3DS, etc.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by TheDong on Sunday March 17, 2019 @07:15PM
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There has been at least one case of such a lawsuit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by shaklee3 on Sunday March 17, 2019 @11:17PM
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Bleem was amazing. I remember the emulator itself had copy protection that baffled cracking groups for longer than anything I'd seen at the time.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by ipnon on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:23PM
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It's a simulation, not a reproduction.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:39PM
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I don’t think the MPAA would look kindly upon your attempt to “simulate” a movie…
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by ipnon on Sunday March 17, 2019 @07:23PM
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I think the distinction to make here is that in the case of RPCS3 it's more like creating a projector in software than recreating a film in software.
I can tell you that it is explicitly illegal to have the files you load into the emulator to play a certain game if you haven't purchased a copy of that game yourself.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @08:16PM
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Yes, I know the distinction; that's why I replied to the comment since I felt it was not an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by _Reo on Sunday March 17, 2019 @04:59PM
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But video players are legal.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @05:28PM
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Yes, as long as the media you put in it was legally acquired.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by djschnei on Sunday March 17, 2019 @06:28PM
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the video player stays legal no matter where the files it plays came from...
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @06:34PM
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Yes, the video player is legal. What you’re doing with it is not legal.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by sjwright on Sunday March 17, 2019 @07:50PM
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What you or the video player is doing is not in itself illegal. The "illegal" part, if you want to use that terminology, is the purchasing and/or possession of an illegal copy of copyrighted material. The fact of copyright infringement doesn't magically emerge through the process of playing it.
There are not—as far as I'm aware—any laws against watching copyright infringing materials; intentional possession is the entirety of crime.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by saagarjha on Sunday March 17, 2019 @08:17PM
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Interesting. Are there any rules against watching copyrighted materials you know were obtained illegally?
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by roblabla on Sunday March 17, 2019 @08:48PM
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No. Copyright is about making a copy. It’s literally in the name: right to copy. A file downloaded illegally means someone made a copy without being authorized by the IP holder.
What you do with the copy is irrelevant.
Re:RPCS3 PS3 Emulator – January 2019 Progress Report
by mrkstu on Sunday March 17, 2019 @11:06PM
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There are 'performance rights' that are separate from the direct copyright infringement. i.e. if you buy a DVD legally and show it to your church's youth group, you'll be infringing on the performance rights. AFAIAA there isn't an 'enhanced' punishment if you got the IP illegally, just two separate offenses.