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Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by savrajsingh on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:52PM (#19242436)
Where can I read about how Curiousity’s hardware and software works at a low level so things like communications still work in safe mode? Truly fascinating engineering.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by mholt on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:07PM (#19242825)
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by wglb on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:39PM (#19242692)
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by savrajsingh on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:03PM (#19242814)
thanks, ordered
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by sho_hn on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:49AM (#19243573)
Could someone who's read both compare the two books that have been linked? The !GP one sounds much more technical going by reviews on Amazon. The GP one sounds more about the organizational challenge (both are interesting).
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by andyjohnson0 on Monday February 25, 2019 @03:07AM (#19243915)
I haven't read either, but Emily Lakdawalla's book is published by Springer Praxis, and I find that their books tend to be satisfyingly technical and detailed.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by ZeKZ on Monday February 25, 2019 @06:58AM (#19244988)
Not a read, but there was this cool conference called "The Mars Rover On-board Computer" last year at 35C3 :

https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9783-the_mars_rover_on-board_com...

Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by mrnobody_07 on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:23AM (#19246223)
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by WalterSobchak on Monday February 25, 2019 @08:44AM (#19245535)
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by jrowley on Monday February 25, 2019 @12:35AM (#19243255)
So how cautious are you when debugging a valuable system like this? I imagine you’re not allowed to just ssh and `sudo -u less logs`
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by 05 on Monday February 25, 2019 @12:50AM (#19243321)
'less' with 29 minute ping is no fun..
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by jrowley on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:15AM (#19243444)
Try entering a password interactively /s
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by teddyh on Monday February 25, 2019 @06:37AM (#19244871)

  ^]
  telnet> mode line
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by ehnto on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:16AM (#19243447)
I wonder if they run a paralell earth based system to run simulations on first.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by dandelany on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:41AM (#19243549)
Yes - several, at varying degrees of fidelity, the highest of which is an exact replica rover named MAGGIE that lives in the garage next to the JPL “Mars Yard”.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by larkeith on Monday February 25, 2019 @03:26AM (#19244000)
TIL - that's really cool, though surprisingly difficult to find info about.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by scegit on Monday February 25, 2019 @09:45AM (#19245933)
Debugging a system like this must very scary because of the tremendous responsibility. It is intersting to know how they actually communicate with it and handle auth.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by ForHackernews on Monday February 25, 2019 @09:55AM (#19246018)
It might not be authenticated. For some NASA probes, they just figured that any attacker would need control of a global network of high-gain radio antennas, and there aren't very many of those. Physical security at DSN tracking sites is sufficient in most cases.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by _asummers on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:03AM (#19246078)
I wonder if this threat vector will change as more countries become space bound. Curious to see the JPL Security Coding Guidelines, whenever that is written.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by moftz on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:26AM (#19246246)
AES-256 on both uplink and downlink sides. It's fast enough and the NSA thinks it's good enough. Put a timestamp inside the cleartext to prevent replay attacks and re-key the encryption module every so often to prevent cryptoanalysis from breaking your current key.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by dvno42 on Monday February 25, 2019 @03:07AM (#19243914)
Does anyone have more info on this? From what I recall there are mirrored systems with duplicate CPUs, memory, flash, etc. In the event of issues with one computer, they failover to the second. Was this an issue with something on the "A/primary", "B/backup" computer, or something more global?
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by ZeKZ on Monday February 25, 2019 @07:01AM (#19245001)
Take a look at this : https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9783-the_mars_rover_on-board_com...

Around 25:45, there is a quick part about the CPU A flash issues on Sol 200.

Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by papito on Monday February 25, 2019 @10:09AM (#19246121)
Just restart the Docker container. Amateurs!
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by davmar on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:18PM (#19242591)
happy to hear comcast support was able to help out on mars. just unplug it and plug it back in.
Re:Curiosity rover gives Nasa a scare, needed a reset by crashbunny on Monday February 25, 2019 @12:48AM (#19243309)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8

have you tried turning it off and on again?