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Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by timdorr on Saturday February 23, 2019 @02:59PM (#19235168)
Interestingly, Bing Maps uses the technically accurate "Aerial" term: https://www.bing.com/maps
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by deanCommie on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:29PM (#19235296)
This reminds me,

Is anyone else remembering when Bing Maps was REALLY good? It had a 45 degree view of cities that looked insanely good, like Sim City. When you zoomed in too close, it switched to aerial imagery.

And it was all buttery smooth. What happened to that product?

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by mbroncano on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:40PM (#19235340)
I was working for the company producing the dataset for Microsoft at the time [0]. I’m not really sure what happened to the product though, but at the time (circa 2007) it was indeed revolutionary.

[0] http://www.blomasa.com/

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by black-tea on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:07AM (#19237830)
Yeah, that was great.

Bing also allowed OpenStreetMap to use its aerial imagery for tracing. This helped OSM a lot!

Google, on the other hand, asks users to help them with their proprietary data with no compensation.

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by rmc on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:47AM (#19238988)
Before Bing, Yahoo allowed OSM to trace.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by Piskvorrr on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:28AM (#19239180)
And others followed suit later, e.g. DigitalGlobe
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by anticensor on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:48AM (#19237933)
If I recall correctly, founder of OpenStreetMap worked at Microsoft at the time.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by shaklee3 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:13AM (#19237248)
Yes, they called it bird's eye view. I think they got rid of it.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by dingaling on Sunday February 24, 2019 @03:10AM (#19237658)
It's still there, in emasculated form, but instead of being able to browse around in oblique mode you have to right-click on a point of interest and select it.

And developers wonder why users "don't like change"...

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by llacb47 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:15PM (#19240062)
I think Bing made this change because they only have "birds-eye" imagery for a few cities.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by _jn on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:01AM (#19238774)
emasculated → emaciated?
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by alpb on Monday February 25, 2019 @04:01AM (#19244135)
Yes it was actually called “Bird’s Eye” view several years back.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by patrickfreed on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:14PM (#19235236)
and when they first introduced it, I think they called it "bird's eye" view.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by wnevets on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:52PM (#19235401)
That's what I remember it being called when it was new. The quality of the photos were also way better than google
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by gniv on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:57PM (#19235431)
I think bird's eye view was the angled view, which seems to have disappeared? I cannot find it.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by pen2l on Saturday February 23, 2019 @04:01PM (#19235452)
But it is now available with Google Maps! View some location in Satellite mode, and then click the "3d" button on lower right. And then you can view any place from various angles
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by furgooswft13 on Saturday February 23, 2019 @08:40PM (#19236599)
It's a nice trick sure, using machine learning (I assume) to build 3d geometry from 2d satellite images, but it's nothing compared to the quality and fidelity of the images taken by low flying airplanes that Birds Eye in Bing actually used. Made house/apartment hunting a dream!

Looking at 3d google maps a bit more closely, it does seem they are capturing the sides of buildings that are not visible on the top down image. Still nowhere near the quality of Birds Eye, but I'd be interested in what other image sources they are using besides top down, and how they are captured.

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by Stratoscope on Sunday February 24, 2019 @12:59AM (#19237360)
It isn't machine learning, it's aerial photography shot at an angle with depth sensing.

For example, take an airplane and mount two cameras on it, one on each side, angled down at perhaps 45 degrees to capture ground imagery in each direction.

Add a LIDAR device next to each camera to capture a "point cloud" of the same area the camera is imaging.

Now you have photographic images with distance data for each pixel. You can use that to construct a 3D image that can be viewed from various angles.

(Disclosure: I work at an unrelated Alphabet company but have no personal knowledge of any of this, it's just my semi-educated guess.)

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by jakobegger on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:23AM (#19237552)
You probably don't even need the LIDAR. Since the airplane is moving, you can use the parallax between successive images to determine depth information. The technique is called "structure from motion"
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by jabberthemutt on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:41AM (#19237605)
Or include the position and orientation of the images' cameras and do a traditional photogrammetric bundle adjustment.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by Fiaxhs on Sunday February 24, 2019 @03:20AM (#19237686)
I don't think they're using lidar, but I don't know much about it.

However your comment made me think of this awesome article about Google maps and 3d buildings https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by fleetingmoments on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:00AM (#19237812)
I thought it had to be accomplished by satellite somehow. I looked at a very remote island in the southern Indian Ocean where I was stationed and the amount of detail in Bing Bird's eye view of the geography was astonishing. This was circa 2013. I would be very surprised if they flew a plane out there just for those islands, there are no flights or shipping routes passing by there.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by thinkingemote on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:31AM (#19237891)
I think your reply had the clue. "Where I was stationed". Seems like it was valuable and valuable places get attention.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by gniv on Saturday February 23, 2019 @04:01PM (#19235451)
Answering my own question: it still exists, it's on the right-click menu.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by deanCommie on Saturday February 23, 2019 @05:02PM (#19235737)
But only at a super-zoomed in level, not the "sim-city" level that made scrolling around whole cities a dream.

I think the product has never recovered since they migrated off Silverlight :(

Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by threatofrain on Saturday February 23, 2019 @05:04PM (#19235740)
Bing also uses the term "Bird's Eye" in the right-click options menu. Maybe Sergey wasn't so crazy?
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by black-tea on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:08AM (#19237831)
Bird's eye is different.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by black-tea on Sunday February 24, 2019 @04:04AM (#19237825)
How is that the Google team couldn't come up with this? The main argument for "satellite" was "it fits on a button". I actually think this was more about egos despite what the twitter story says.
Re:Google Maps: Bird Mode by anticensor on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:05AM (#19237979)
Orthophoto is the common term in GIS circles.