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Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by typon on Friday February 08, 2019 @07:32PM (#19119897)
People are so enamoured by 4chan precisely because it isn't like reddit. Reddit, Facebook or any social media platform that rewards users with up votes, karma, reputation, likes or whatever creates a system in which people want to please others and develop reputations they have to uphold. 4chan is free from those chains and people are able to freely throw ideas into the mix. This is why 4chan has been so instrumental in coming up thousands of memes that define internet culture today. Reddit, Facebook and others are usually consumers of those memes rather than generators.

I know this is a massive generalization, but that's been my impression being on digg, reddit, Twitter and 4chan for 10 years now.

The problem is that a lot of the original 4chan users either moved on or just grew up and at the same time 4chan got over taken by alt-light type folks. I still think the basic idea of 4chan has a lot to offer that maybe could be replicated on an other platform, with a fresh set of people.

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by owlie on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:32PM (#19120743)
>The problem is that a lot of the original 4chan users either moved on or just grew up and at the same time 4chan got over taken by alt-light type folks.

This is relatable. I was a pretty notable figure on /mu/ for a few years, and my tripfriends WERE my social circle when high school couldn't do that for me. Then I went to college and realized how much toxicity it had instilled in me, and moved on.

It's interesting to reflect on that bit of my teenage years!

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by throwawaylolx on Saturday February 09, 2019 @05:55AM (#19121735)
>I was a pretty notable figure on /mu/

Only Biotroll and CLT get to claim this status :P

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by dymk on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:22PM (#19120099)
At one point, 4chan was the source of a lot of internet culture and memes, but that ship has firmly sailed.

Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, and even Facebook are now massive generators of original content and memes.

The alt-lite type folk were always on 4chan. Just only "recently" has the political atmosphere shifted in such a way that we have a word to describe that sort of ideology and behavior.

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by cududa on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:25PM (#19120109)
That is absolutely false. Shit tons of political memes and conspiracy theories picked up by the likes of Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc still originate there
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by dymk on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:31PM (#19120132)
I didn't say their meme output dropped to zero. I said that other websites are the dominant force for generating the memes we see today.
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by typon on Friday February 08, 2019 @09:51PM (#19120382)
I agree with you that 4chan isn't the meme generator place it used to be. But I would say that the memes produced on reddit, Twitter or Facebook are different qualitatively. They have much broader appeal usually (normie) than 4chan. But yea..4chan is not the cool subversive place it used to be any more. People make a huge difference... Platforms are not enough on their own. And the people have moved on
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by madeofpalk on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:36PM (#19120757)
But you can look at the memes that we have today, 'image macros' and their origins from things that started in places like 4chan.
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by agumonkey on Friday February 08, 2019 @09:52PM (#19120386)
I don't mind principles or rules but I don't like what most websites have in place.

4chan was completely unpredictable and unorganized; no tension was trying to make something out of it except for the people there. Something there made me like that. I never really used it except for a few readings once a year.. and I always like this raw side. Somehow.. it's so raw it feels honest and trustable.

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by misterdoubt on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:20PM (#19120090)
Funny images and phrases, yes.

Anything more substantive than that... quite rarely.

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by Hrundi on Friday February 08, 2019 @10:53PM (#19120598)
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by coolness on Saturday February 09, 2019 @01:17AM (#19121067)
> If you slept exp(n) instead of n it could easily include negative integers too!

Hilarious!

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by princeofwands on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:15PM (#19120687)
Hillary Clinton showed 4chan Pepe memes during her campaign. The Vice President is protected by soldiers who wear a Qanon-patch. Pizzagate and Podesta's hacked emails play a large role in the Russia investigation.
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by OldFatCactus on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:24PM (#19120714)
Lol what. Qanon patch?
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by na85 on Saturday February 09, 2019 @01:39AM (#19121110)
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by Houshalter on Saturday February 09, 2019 @07:15PM (#19125589)
>The account has falsely accused...The conspiracy theory..., has been widely characterized as "baseless",[11][12][13] "unhinged"[14] and "evidence-free".[15] Its proponents have been called "a deranged conspiracy cult"[16] and "some of the Internet's most outré Trump fans".[17]

I have no idea what this is and im sure its ridiculous. But wtf happened to wikipedias neutral tone and point of view style? Ive read articles about all sorts of ridiculous conspiracy theories, cults, political parties, etc, and never seen this kind of language. Using quotes like this isnt an excuse.

Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by princeofwands on Saturday February 09, 2019 @08:02PM (#19125768)
It really is lizardpeople-style crazy. It is halfway between a troll and a Russian PSYOP. That language really does it justice.
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by dcbadacd on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:56PM (#19120217)
Pretty sure there was a math proof posted on 4chan originally.
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by lewilewilewi on Friday February 08, 2019 @09:11PM (#19120264)
Yep - someone posted an original proof of the lower bound for the Haruhi problem http://mathsci.wikia.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by jdhn on Friday February 08, 2019 @09:08PM (#19120255)
Re:Biography of Christopher “moot” Poole: The Hacker Known a... by misterdoubt on Friday February 08, 2019 @10:16PM (#19120467)
I wouldn't say never.