It already has stopped. Nothing fundamentally has changed on the web in the last 10 years. Apart from the size if the major players making it more restrictive and centralized.

DeepMind is the only innovative project Google has, and that was an acquisition.

How long can they be allowed to steal data from their users and sell it, and steal content from other creators and shove and advert in front it?

Nobody but Google or Apple can push through meaningful changes to software anymore, at least on mobile, and in many ways on the desktop too. Is anyone surprised all we get is more dumb devices whose brains are in a data center?

As much as I'm no fan of Google for the way they treated me when I briefly worked there, along with DeepMind, IMO Waymo is acting as the adult in the room when it comes to self driving cars.

Cruise seems to be fine.

Innovation will never stop. Innovation existed long before Google and will continue long after.

Imagine the innovation we would see in copyright violation detection if there were an incentive to do so.

How do you propose a bot will ever understand copyright exceptions such as fair use and political speech?

This. People need to understand that the root cause of life being as terrible as it was under Soviet rule was not so much the atrocities that got reported (that, of course, had to do with it too, but it was not the direct cause of daily life being so unbearable).

But day to day, what really killed every initiative, every improvement, every little bit of relief that might have been is that bureaucrats controlling the platforms were forced to take a 0.00000001% chance of terrible personal consequences every time they said "yes you can do that".

The result was: no to EVERYTHING. Absolutely every, every, everything. This law works the same way. Youtube will be forced to do deny everything. So will facebook, reddit, ycombinator, ...

Copyright can only exist if ALL the rest of society is constantly on the lookout for violations. Sorry, but that's just not worth it.

This is really about corporations flagrantly violating people's rights for their own profit.

We aren't sending anyone to the gulag. Just wanting them to fairly compensate those who produce the content they sell ads on and otherwise benefit from.

You don't even need a bot. Just pay people to do it. It works in every other industry.

Google is too big is no excuse.

How much are you willing to pay per post to post on HN? Because that's what you're basically asking for. If you force companies to vet every single post a user makes and they have to take responsibility for it, then they'll have a rather substantial monetary value attached to each post you make.

Nothing. HN is exempt because pg doesn't profit off these posts.

Anyone care to strongman my argument? Or just strawman?

If this doesn't impact non-profits, why do you think Wikimedia is against it? Are they simply uninformed?

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/29/eu-copyright-proposal-...