Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better

Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by yeahitslikethat on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @08:59AM (#19085282)

Innovation will never stop. Innovation existed long before Google and will continue long after.

Imagine the innovation we would see in copyright violation detection if there were an incentive to do so.

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by hkeide on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @09:08AM (#19085373)

How do you propose a bot will ever understand copyright exceptions such as fair use and political speech?

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by candiodari on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @09:27AM (#19085523)

This. People need to understand that the root cause of life being as terrible as it was under Soviet rule was not so much the atrocities that got reported (that, of course, had to do with it too, but it was not the direct cause of daily life being so unbearable).

But day to day, what really killed every initiative, every improvement, every little bit of relief that might have been is that bureaucrats controlling the platforms were forced to take a 0.00000001% chance of terrible personal consequences every time they said "yes you can do that".

The result was: no to EVERYTHING. Absolutely every, every, everything. This law works the same way. Youtube will be forced to do deny everything. So will facebook, reddit, ycombinator, ...

Copyright can only exist if ALL the rest of society is constantly on the lookout for violations. Sorry, but that's just not worth it.

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by yeahitslikethat on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @10:00AM (#19085808)

This is really about corporations flagrantly violating people's rights for their own profit.

We aren't sending anyone to the gulag. Just wanting them to fairly compensate those who produce the content they sell ads on and otherwise benefit from.

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by yeahitslikethat on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @09:51AM (#19085718)

You don't even need a bot. Just pay people to do it. It works in every other industry.

Google is too big is no excuse.

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by Mirioron on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @10:20AM (#19086032)

How much are you willing to pay per post to post on HN? Because that's what you're basically asking for. If you force companies to vet every single post a user makes and they have to take responsibility for it, then they'll have a rather substantial monetary value attached to each post you make.

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by yeahitslikethat on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @02:06PM (#19088589)

Nothing. HN is exempt because pg doesn't profit off these posts.

Anyone care to strongman my argument? Or just strawman?

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Re:Article 13 Is Back On: Worse, Not Better by hkeide on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @02:32PM (#19088864)

If this doesn't impact non-profits, why do you think Wikimedia is against it? Are they simply uninformed?

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