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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by Someone1234 on Monday January 28, 2019 @08:38PM (#19022935)
It reminds me of this MacOS bug from last year, where simply hitting the login box over and over with no password would eventually bypass the security entirely:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/28/root_access_bypass_...

And this other MacOS bug, also from last year, where the password hint would contain the plain text encryption password:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/05/apple_patches_passw...

All within a month of each other.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by judge2020 on Monday January 28, 2019 @08:58PM (#19023025)
Not Apple related, but you could log into any linux box using a specific few versions of grub2 by hitting backspace 28 times: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpdqz/hack-into-...
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by biggestdecision on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:21PM (#19023136)
This bug only applied to grub authentication, which isn't a widely used feature. And you could achieve the same result with boot from disk/USB if that is enabled.

The vuln doesn't give you access to the actual accounts on the computer.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by seanp2k2 on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:06PM (#19023382)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by samstave on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:41PM (#19023543)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by raverbashing on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @03:55AM (#19024838)
But the Windows 95 login was just for logging into the network, not the computer

I think that if you hit Cancel there it would work just as well. You wouldn't get it logged into the domain though

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by rusk on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:33AM (#19025783)
Yes - from what I recall there was not even a pretense of security. Everything was just unencrypted FAT (VFAT rather than FAT32) and if you logged in as one user all other user's data was clearly visible - it was just a means to have your own user workspace and customisations applied. Windows 95 and everything up to (not including) XP was a toy OS for home users ... If you wanted "grown up" features you had to go for NT.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by stiGGG on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:04PM (#19023657)
Oh dear, I remember something similar was possible on iOS lockscreen multiple times. What version of Windows was that?
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by samstave on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:09PM (#19023680)
95. 98 had an even better one... just hitting cancel on some login boxes would let you in.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by cheerlessbog on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:34PM (#19023797)
I believe that was by design: the dialog was an opportunity to authenticate with the domain. If you just wanted local access you could hit cancel. Remember Win9x was not a secure OS itself.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by eitland on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @03:16AM (#19024671)
Pretty sure I've seen a similar trick on XP or later as well. (I learned it from someone I didn't meet until long after I last saw a 95/98/2000 machine.)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by jodrellblank on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @03:28AM (#19024716)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by AJRF on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:46AM (#19025567)
!WARNING! - This now redirects to an image of a hairy testicle. I think the site owner noticed the traffic and put in a redirect.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by eMSF on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:09AM (#19026348)
It's been that way for years (i.e. visitors from HN get redirected).
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by AJRF on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:06AM (#19026847)
Ah you are right, should have experimented with that.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by obituary_latte on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:49AM (#19025579)
Heh just saw/posted the same. I think you’re right - jwz being a little trolly.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by obituary_latte on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:47AM (#19025569)
wtf. Clicking your link brought me to http://i.imgur.com/rG0p0b2.gif somehow. jwz doing a referrer troll?? Anyone else see this?
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by sebcat on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:40AM (#19026141)
Probably Referer check, copy-pasting the URL works.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by semi-extrinsic on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:34AM (#19024282)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by dmitriid on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @02:35AM (#19024514)
I remember an article somewhere about these kinds of bugs. A lot of medical hardware/software combos are/can be compromised. And here comes the problem: do you disclose the vulnerabilities since it means potentially killing people? How long do you wait before manufacturers acknowledge and fix the problem (and they often don't)?

So yeah, these types of vulnerabilities are very very scary.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by codedokode on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:27AM (#19024253)
Also, you can bypass screen lock in Ubuntu by removing the HDD [1]. The bug still is not fixed.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1777415

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by Jonnax on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @04:11AM (#19024913)
That's a bug in Unity. They dropped their own desktop environment in 18.04 for GNOME.

So it's likely it won't ever be fixed.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by laumars on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:38AM (#19024298)
Honestly, I wouldn’t but that in the same class if bugs as those that preceded it because if the attacker he removed the HDD he will have access to your contents anyway (unless the HDD is encrypted) and it’s not a quick and convenient process either (unlike tapping backspace multiple times).

That said, I also don’t agree that this bug should never get fixed either.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by nurettin on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @02:16AM (#19024438)
This is a very naive estimation of what might happen when someone has access to all your running software. Since it is linux, it loads executables into memory and is able to run them even when they are deleted along with runtime dependencies.

Anything that caches anything to anywhere other than disk will be accessible. Your memcache, your redis, some databases, keychains, your non-userdata browser sessions.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by laumars on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @05:53AM (#19025359)
I'm aware of that but it's a moot point because you'd be popping the storage device back in anyway. Which is why I didn't address that in my previous comment.

In any case, half the examples you've provided there are server specific and you really shouldn't be allowing untrusted physical access to your servers (nor running Xorg to be honest).

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by nurettin on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:26AM (#19025741)
While I do agree, a lot of ideas here are still laden with hindsight.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by morganvachon on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:04PM (#19023050)
Sometimes I feel like a relic using Slackware with lilo and SysV init, then I read about exploits like that and I smile.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by omeid2 on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @12:36AM (#19024030)
I am afraid your system is _probably_ just bug ridden as any other, it is simply not popular enough to for people to find bugs.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by morganvachon on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:36PM (#19028748)
It's actually the opposite situation. Slackware's policy is to stick to the original software as distributed by the author with only minimal patching where necessary, so if a particular program (say, KDE) has a big support community, Slackware benefits from all those eyes on the code. This leads to a very mature and stable system at the expense of running older versions of software (though there's always the -current branch for those wishing to live on the edge).

Beyond this, the small but dedicated Slackware team is working daily to find and patch bugs when they do appear. You can look at the changelogs for examples of that workflow[1].

There's no such thing as a software project without bugs, but Slackware is consistently one of the most stable and robust OSes out there.

[1] http://www.slackware.com/changelog/

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by sixothree on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:34PM (#19023223)
I remember turning on my iPhone and briefly seeing a picture of myself from a time when I had not taken any photos of myself. In fact I had not been using the front facing camera at all.

Extra creepy.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by 2stop on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:02PM (#19023363)
If someone facetimes you and hangs up, that can happen. (I've noticed).
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by ta10101 on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:45PM (#19023841)
That is what happened with Signal(i was on iOS and the person i called was on android)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by Proof on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @12:34AM (#19024017)
I think user ‘sixothree’ was stating that a picture would show after unlocking the phone, not after a call. I myself, have had it happen to me several times couple months ago and thought it was really creepy. It almost seemed as if someone was using the front camera without my knowledge. Thought it to be glitch or something at that time.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by sixothree on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:54AM (#19026749)
This is what happened.

And I'll be honest, this is when I started losing faith in technology.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by codetrotter on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:29PM (#19023473)
I remember some people discovered that you could kill the xscreensaver lock screen on Debian with Alt+SysRq+F some years back. Well, a decade back actually — 2009.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562884

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by tuxxy on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:02PM (#19023650)
A fee years ago, I discovered that if someone was running dual monitors and using XScreenlock, you could unplug one of the monitors and it would bypass the lock screen. I have no idea if this is still possible, I've not used XScreenlock since then.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by heywire on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:59AM (#19025908)
On Windows 10, if you have dual screens and unplug one while the screen is locked, it will reconfigure the displays and give you a flash of what was under the lock screen. Hope you didn't leave anything sensitive on your screen!
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by spockz on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @05:06PM (#19030277)
I’ve noticed this as well on my MacBook with an external screen actually. Also sometimes when resuming from sleep..
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by jakoblorz on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @02:37AM (#19024522)
That's a feature, not a bug! ;)
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by tedunangst on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:25PM (#19023165)
I find those bugs less puzzling because the timeline makes sense. You're not logged in, there's a prompt, you're logged in. Obvious bug in the prompt, but the A happens before B happens before C order is there. Call comes in, audio is recorded, call is accepted is not the expected order. I could imagine a bug where declining the call still accepts the call, because that still obeys the proper ordering, but this bug does not.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by Twisell on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:42PM (#19023831)
I don’t use face time often, but isn’t there a "preview" of the camera feed during the prompt? I guess so that the user can check if he’s looking decent before engaging the call.

The bug could then be that the feed is sent over the call too early instead of being used solely for this local feedback.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by smelendez on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:50AM (#19024350)
From the details, it sounds like "adding" the caller to the call before the call recipient accepts probably puts it in a weird state. Could be some kind of off-by-one error, where for some purposes Participant 2 is the caller and for some it's the recipient.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by konschubert on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @12:43AM (#19024056)
Edit: Deleted my comment because I felt it wasn’t constructive.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by mcpherrinm on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:24AM (#19024240)
Yes, I experience this routinely. As do many other people at my company.

In particular it happens when attaching external monitors while the screen is locked. There's a flash of the unlocked desktop.

I am guessing this is because the screen lock is an application drawing over top of the monitor, like XScreensaver on Linux does. A more secure-by-default architecture would have screen locking built into the display server at some lower level: If the screen is not unlocked, it will not allow the data to be passed to the GPU. It's easy for me to arm-chair architect though.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:17AM (#19024210)
There was one guy on reddit who had a scare when his computer flashed a picture of a dead person when shutting down, and he thought his computer was haunted. It turned out to be a frame from a youtube video he was watching earlier. It may be that macOS is not that good at clearing out GPU memory sometimes.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by ben_w on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:27AM (#19024251)
I have the exact opposite problem. When I reboot after system updates, half a dozen YouTube videos in Chrome tabs start playing over each other on the password screen. They get through about 20 seconds before I can stop the last of them.

Audio only on the password screen, but all audible.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by SilasX on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:09AM (#19025415)
I’ve long had a similar problem on iOS. Whenever I return to an app, I briefly see an image from a few minutes ago. Which can be bad if I’m showing the phone to someone that old state was exposing sensitive data.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by thinkling on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:09AM (#19024181)
I used to see this regularly but haven't noticed it in a long while. I always assumed they were doing something like a double-buffering type trick and switching framebuffers before wiping stale content from the destination.
Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by MagicPropmaker on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @12:48AM (#19024078)
Apple claims, falsely, that their Operating System is "secure by design". (See https://www.apple.com/business/resources/docs/iOS_Security_O... )

This is an outright lie.

However, I'm not sure a typical iOS user cares.

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by mtgx on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @04:52AM (#19025105)
These are the sort of "bugs" that have barely enough plausible deniability as backdoors to make people believe they were "random" or "human error."