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Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by iagooar on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:22AM (#18988856)
This doesn't work in Germany, for example. If you charge back, they'll just put you into a central register (called Schufa) that will basically make it impossible for you to get a credit or even to rent an apartment.
Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by Xylakant on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:47AM (#18989097)
No, disputed charges must not be reported to any credit register, Schufa or other. Only undisputed charges or court-certified decisions can be entered into a credit register. Even the repeated threat of reporting the charge to the credit register is illegal in many cases [1].

[1] https://www.wbs-law.de/datenschutz/unternehmen-darf-nicht-mi...

Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by entity345 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:33AM (#18988958)
It's not a charge back in that sense when you report fraud or card theft.

And I suppose that the effect you describe results from abusive requests from charge backs. I doubt you will be refused a mortgaged because you were a victim of theft in the past...

Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by mschuster91 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:50AM (#18989113)
> I doubt you will be refused a mortgaged because you were a victim of theft in the past...

Don't be so certain about this. The credit reporting agencies are evil, nasty blackboxes and it is not transparent how your score is influenced, even by fraudulent stuff.

Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by mschuster91 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:48AM (#18989101)
While I hate the Schufa with a passion, it is not as clear-cut and automated as you make it seem. Before anyone can do shit with your Schufa score (or the other smaller credit reporting agencies arvato infoscore and Creditreform), they have to formally remind you of the debt that you have due to the charge-back before, and you can always contest fraudulent entries at the credit reporting agencies.

Additionally, you can and should file a police report for fraud when hit with such a scheme, it makes dealing with your card-issuing bank and the CRAs so much easier.

Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by philpem on Thursday January 24, 2019 @10:28AM (#18989461)
Can confirm that the police fraud report helps grease the gears (in the UK, this is done through Action Fraud).

The bank went from "we won't help you" to "oh, we'll fix that" about as soon as I told them I had a crime reference number...

I guess this has something to do with the penalties for making a false police report being much higher (in criminal law terms) than lying to a bank.

Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by chopin on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:31AM (#18988941)
Charge back for a credit card? That's the first time I hear of this. Do you have citations for this?
Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by zaroth on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:44AM (#18989062)
Contesting a charge is a primary feature of credit cards — at least in the US. There’s a prominent link when I login to my credit card account allowing me to contest any charge, and a litany of reasons which you can then select from, ranging from “I don’t recognize / didn’t make this charge” to “Item was not delivered”, “Item was returned”, etc.
Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by chopin on Friday January 25, 2019 @03:23AM (#18996394)
I've been imprecise, sorry. What I meant: how lead chargebacks to a credit card to a negative Schufa entry? I've never heard of this.
Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by mcv on Thursday January 24, 2019 @10:51AM (#18989694)
It's the one saving grace for using something so insecure for payments. At least the credit card company and/or merchant share that risk.
Re:Deliveroo users are getting defrauded by jacquesm on Thursday January 24, 2019 @11:13AM (#18989924)
The CC offloads all of the risk + a fine to the merchant, they assume none of it.