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Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by detaro on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @08:47AM (#18920761)
Why do weird niche websites need more tracking? I'd assume their user base is way more specific, and thus can be targeted better without needing tracking. That I visit the NYT tells you way less about my interests than that I'm reading your blog about aquarium filters.
Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by nemothekid on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:00AM (#18920861)
I can only give you speculation on what I’ve seen in online video.

If you are a smaller publisher, unless you get particularly active in courting advertisers (i.e. spend time going into sales), the niche advertisers will never even look at your content. The 20-something digital ad manager has no motivation to risk his job doing speculative ad spend. As a result your ads are less relevant and your inventory’s CPM drops as a result.

If you are a large property, then tracking affects you less (in fact tracking might be worse for you). Large publishers already have sales and marketing teams and ad managers will just choose you because you are “safe”. If brands are moving to a world where tracking data is less and less reliable, then by default they will move to spending more money on a smaller amount of “safe” inventory

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by SiempreViernes on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:09AM (#18920931)
If you are a small publisher, why would your ad prices endanger any but the smallest of advertising budgets?
Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by nemothekid on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @11:22AM (#18922151)
As an advertiser, you go down the tracking route and you decide to spend 1M targeting women 21-35.

With tracking, you spend all on an exchange that has a ton of supply. ELLE competes with JennyBlogger. You potentially hit a ton of women across different properties. You may be advertising to women on male dominated outlets (the “promise” of digital tracking)

With the direct route, an ad manager may spend that 1M on specific properties, maybe between ELLE, Vogue and InStyle. This is a bit of a simplification as most firms have separate direct and programmatic spend, but the amount of money allocated to each depends on the perceived return of each inventory type.

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by buboard on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @08:57AM (#18920837)
this logic (barely) works for blogs. if your game is an aquarium game, it doesn't mean that your users are only interested in aquarium cleaning products.
Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by reitanqild on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:17AM (#18921005)
> if your game is an aquarium game, it doesn't mean that your users are only interested in aquarium cleaning products.

Correct.

On the other hand, the topic of the game is just one of the contexts. A trivial example:

At least we can infer that the player likes to play games, so advertising for mobile games, discount gaming consoles etc might be a better match.

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by buboard on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:54AM (#18921297)
yeah but the category "plays games" is too broad, rivaled by "reads blogs". And after the users have seen enough of gaming ads (and not responded) they are offeered the bottom of the barrel: russian brides (true story).

If we are going to go down the road of doing increasingly detailed ad customization as publishers, we will have come full circle to reinventing targeted ads by another name.

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by reitanqild on Thursday January 17, 2019 @07:46AM (#18930334)
> yeah but the category "plays games" is too broad, rivaled by "reads blogs".

Plays x game on y website at z time of the days however should tell you something though.

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by buboard on Thursday January 17, 2019 @09:11AM (#18930844)
the question is how it overlaps with what the advertiser wants to promote. e.g. "is looking for new jeans"
Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by reitanqild on Thursday January 17, 2019 @12:00PM (#18932393)
It doesn't overlap with everything a random advertiser might want to promote.

But based on the site, game and other indicators it might be a good place to place an ad for:

- stupid mobile games (assuming the audience is just bored)

- discount consoles/games (assuming audience is playing it because they don't have access to a console)

- toys (assuming audience is kids)

- etc

Re:After GDPR, The New York Times cut off ad exchanges and k... by Tsubasachan on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @10:46AM (#18921796)
Targeted ads have always been around. Everyone targets their ads. Decide whether to put your ad in the Times or the Sun.

Its the unsolicited tracking/stalking of individuals across communication networks GDPR forbids.