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Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by Hoasi on Sunday December 16, 2018 @10:04AM (#18693322)
Letting a horde of journalists rush to photograph the tomb at once seems like a terrible idea. That goes against the most basic precaution you could take to protect archeological artifacts. What kind of professional archeologist would let that happen?
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by canada_dry on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:18AM (#18693677)
I don't think I'm being overly dramatic to say that the antiquities governance in Egypt is a bloated, top heavy and mostly useless bureaucracy which - in the end - only has a cursory interest in archeology - aside from keeping the money rolling in.

It's all about giving high paying, long term jobs to political allies and family members and less about preserving one of the most fascinating cultures the world has ever seen.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by LyndsySimon on Sunday December 16, 2018 @03:43PM (#18695110)
So... ironically very similar to the ancient Egyptian priesthood they nominally protect?
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by shard972 on Sunday December 16, 2018 @06:37PM (#18695949)
I'm not an ancient Egyptian expert but considering their culture was obsessed about the past to the point they created these ancient tombs, i would imagine they had maybe just a little more respect for their ancestors.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by LyndsySimon on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @03:17PM (#18710145)
I have my doubts.

Seriously - to achieve high-ranking status in a human organization is to become embroiled in politics. At some point in the hierarchy, politics becomes the main function of your position. As a result, people who are skilled at politics are disproportionately represented at the highest ranks of every organization, and those people are very rarely the "true believers".

I worked at a trucking company for seven years. I was in process improvement, and my focus was in improving efficiency, reducing losses and damages, and being able to measure the impact of organizational changes. The levels below me were concerned with moving individual pieces of freight and their relationship with individual customers. The levels above me were focused on reducing costs and increasing both profit and revenue - I couldn't have cared less about overall revenue, generally speaking. The levels above that were concerned with trends in the competitive marketplace and long-term growth. Above that? Managing to nudge the entire organization in one direction or another in service to one or more very long-term initiative.

Basically, the higher you go in an organization, the less actually matters about what the organization does, at least from your perspective. Leading a priesthood, managing a trucking company, writing legislation, maintaining a bureaucracy... there's a lot of overlap in skills.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by Retric on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:28PM (#18696895)
Cultures change over 4,000+ years enough to be unrecognizable.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by shard972 on Monday December 17, 2018 @08:11PM (#18703771)
A few rounds of immigration from the romans and subsequent conquerers tends to change your culture. Doesn't dismiss the fact that ancient Egyptians had a culturural context that anchored to the past as opposed to the present/future.
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Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by dang on Friday December 21, 2018 @08:19PM (#18738241)
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Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by trhway on Sunday December 16, 2018 @02:10PM (#18694573)
War on smuggling.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by Jureko on Sunday December 16, 2018 @06:23PM (#18695897)
I'm intrigued but this is ambiguous, could you make a complete sentence?
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by adawoud on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:57AM (#18693854)
As an Egyptian, I can assure you nobody in our entire government body knows what they're doing.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by eponeponepon on Sunday December 16, 2018 @10:27AM (#18693445)
These things can be done in an organised and controlled fashion - one has to hope that those in charge did so. There's no particular reason to assume that "a horde" of journalists were allowed to rush in, though.

Fundamentally it's a judgement call for the archaeologists as to whether the tomb is in good enough condition and the photographers are trustworthy enough.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by Hoasi on Sunday December 16, 2018 @10:42AM (#18693494)
> There's no particular reason to assume that "a horde" of journalists were allowed to rush in, though.

Look at the video, it is ridiculous. People are walking on each other feet there.

> Fundamentally it's a judgement call for the archaeologists as to whether the tomb is in good enough condition and the photographers are trustworthy enough.

The flashes alone should be a concern. That's also not a good way to get a good photograph. They should know better.

You'd expect and perhaps understand this happening at a celebrity gathering. But it is not like the statues are going to bust a move soon here.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by eponeponepon on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:22AM (#18693697)
Crikey, yes. I hadn't seen the video - that's pretty bad.

Fingers crossed this was a one-off, I guess.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by jacquesm on Sunday December 16, 2018 @12:08PM (#18693912)
It most definitely is a one-off, that's the whole problem.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by hawaiianbrah on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:41AM (#18693777)
Pardon my ignorance, but what can flashes do?
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by ahakki on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:51AM (#18693831)
Flash light has very high uv content which can fade the pigments. The effect is similar to a picture that fades because it’s been exposed to sunlight.

I doubt that a day of journalists making pics would have any measurable effect. It’s more a problem if hordes of tourists take pics every day.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by dominotw on Sunday December 16, 2018 @01:13PM (#18694251)
> Letting a horde of journalists rush to photograph the tomb at once seems like a terrible idea.

Its a good idea if your tourism industry is feeling the slump from terrorist bombings, revolutions, political instability. Any publicity is to revive tourism is good.

Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by tomcam on Sunday December 16, 2018 @10:11AM (#18693361)
We’re not dealing with the British Museum here. Money changed hands through informal channels, though no journalists will publicly acknowledge what happens. The Egyptian government has underfunded antiquities greviously for years, and this has not been a stable system like the West is accustomed to at any time in modern history.
Re:4,400 year old Egyptian tomb discovered in the Saqqara py... by grigjd3 on Sunday December 16, 2018 @12:12PM (#18693931)
You ever see the way artifacts are treated at the British Museum? Despite all the signs, people can't help but put their hands all over everything.