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Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by ehsankia on Thursday November 22, 2018 @07:48PM (#18513597)
> I assumed confidence to be the probability of each task. However, often they do not add up to 100. If they do not represent probabilities what do they represent?

The probability of each being true independently?

> How can Google possibly predict activity type between IN_TWO_WHEELER_VEHICLE vs IN_FOUR_WHEELER_VEHICLE ?!

Two wheel vehicles can often make it through traffic, in between cars.

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by egypturnash on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:12PM (#18513685)
Measuring how much the phone rolled back and forth could be a factor, too. You don’t have to keep a car balanced, you do have to keep a bike/scooter/motorcycle balanced.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by GChevalier on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:23AM (#18514735)
> How can Google possibly predict activity type between IN_TWO_WHEELER_VEHICLE vs IN_FOUR_WHEELER_VEHICLE ?!

Could they be using this from accelerometer data instead of GPS? https://github.com/guillaume-chevalier/LSTM-Human-Activity-R...

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by GChevalier on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:44AM (#18514806)
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by toadi on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:53PM (#18513829)
I drive a motorcycle in Thailand all the time google is more wrong than right when predicting this.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by aasasd on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:30AM (#18514755)
I'm gonna bet that Thai bike-driving habits are different from those of people in the US, at least in cities.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by nl on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:48AM (#18514818)
I going to bet there are more bike driving people with Android phones in places like Thailand, Indonesia, India and the Philippines where on-road behavior is more similar to each other than to the US.

I think it's a pretty hard problem, and we shouldn't be surprised if the accuracy there is low.

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by stuppalupp on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:23PM (#18513933)
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by cameldrv on Thursday November 22, 2018 @11:32PM (#18514373)
It's probably a combination of features, but the suspensions are different, and two wheelers lean when they turn, which should be easy to distinguish from the accelerometer and gyros.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by jayd16 on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:02PM (#18513862)
Seems feasible to detect a user at above foot speed,that appears to be stopping at intersections but seems to be more immune to congestion than others and label it as a two wheeled vehicle.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by kingosticks on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:28AM (#18515376)
There are also certain roads/paths that are bike only, through convention (bike lanes) or physical width restrictions.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by mathur68 on Friday November 23, 2018 @05:56AM (#18515710)
LOL. There are no such paths in India - Article Author
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by kingosticks on Friday November 23, 2018 @06:30AM (#18515832)
I've never been to India but presumably you have some parks... However, I do see that google maps has the bicycle overlay greyed out for New Delhi!
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by dochtman on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:31AM (#18514759)
I wrote a little script a few years ago to make a nice map out of my location history:

https://dirkjan.ochtman.nl/writing/2012/11/28/tracing-a-path...

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by jefftk on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:48PM (#18513812)
> What does the activity type "tilting" mean?

"The device angle relative to gravity changed significantly."

-- https://developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/a...

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by lars512 on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:56PM (#18514028)
I did something like this in a quantified self phase, it's fun to see the location patterns. I was gridding locations into buckets and scoring the entropy over time, to see how diverse the set of locations I was going to was. Long story short, not that diverse. Just over 1 bit was enough! (think: home or work)
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by jfim on Thursday November 22, 2018 @10:20PM (#18514113)
We actually did that several years ago in our data viz lab. All of the (willing) lab members tracked their location data and one student developed a way to track and visualize co-occurrences of people over time [1].

Another ways to visualize this kind of information is to use space time cube maps, which turn the time axis into the z-axis for trajectory visualization; GeoTime[2] is the most well known implementation of it AFAIK.

[1] http://profs.etsmtl.ca/mmcguffin/research/2016-gupta-Movemen... [2] https://geotime.com/products/geotime/

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by tokyodude on Friday November 23, 2018 @12:01AM (#18514464)
it's disappointing that apparently if there is no connection it just throws the data away. I'd prefer if it saved it locally and uploaded when it can
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by elboru on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:03AM (#18514669)
Uhmm, maybe it depends on the phone? I backpacked Europe 4 years ago without a data plan and I have all my location history logged, it seems like it kept it on my phone while offline and then it uploaded it when connected, I used a Galaxy S5 btw.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by pmontra on Friday November 23, 2018 @07:29AM (#18516013)
I'd prefer it to be saved locally or sent to a server of mine with some standard protocol (maybe NMEA 0183 over HTTP POSTs) and never to Google. Of course I could write an app for that (and I did some 8 years ago) but it would be much easier if the OS would cooperate.

By the way, I disabled location services on my devices to prevent at least this form of spying on me.

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by netsharc on Friday November 23, 2018 @09:31AM (#18516591)
OwnTracks is an app that does that, https://owntracks.org/ , but I still haven't set up my server to receive the data.

It uses MQTT, which is probably fault tolerant/store data locally if it can't connect to the server right now.

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by brecalynch on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:53AM (#18515483)
Funny how Google also consider those places where I have stopped just for a minute.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by tomglynch on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:33PM (#18513956)
> "My previous phone had some GPS issues, which was leading to my location being shown in Arizona, USA"

Sounds more like your gmail account was compromised

Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by code_duck on Thursday November 22, 2018 @11:15PM (#18514314)
Or you’re getting an IP from somewhere associated with a different region. This happens all the time with my cell connection - it seems the company uses spare Verizon capacity, and when I (or someone else) looks up my 4G is, it’s all over the US with no connection to my actual location.
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by balibebas on Friday November 23, 2018 @12:17AM (#18514514)
Or was it that trip to Vegas?
Re:Analyzing My Google Location History by mathur68 on Friday November 23, 2018 @05:57AM (#18515715)
I wish - Article Author