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Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by sanimal on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:37PM (#18472173)
I don't like the "Pay What You Want" system they have to download the OS. It feels misleading that you have to click on custom then enter 0 to download for free.

I totally understand how important donations are to keep a project going but this one rubs me off the wrong way. I hope I'm not the only one.

Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by ademup on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:47PM (#18472232)
I love it. I feel that having the downloader physically typing the number zero ensures that the downloader understands that there is 'A' number that belongs there. It respects the downloader (no ads or pushy verbiage) while sending this message of 'yeah, it is free to use, and it costs money/time/resources to create, so your financial contribution would be appreciated.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by rijoja on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:33PM (#18472496)
Nah .. everybody thinks that they will give contributions and are really charitable in their heads. When it comes down to reality however you never really donate. When it's pushed into your face like this there's an actual call to action to do it. If you want it for free you still get it.

Remember this is for consumer oriented projects, they can't expect to get B2B support deals for keeping vital servers up and running. So why not. Maybe a slider would've done it better, because then the 0 value is made available in a different way. Like the humble bundle used to. But that's just nitpicking. And sliders with different platforms and whatever might get messy.

Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by craftyguy on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:43PM (#18472211)
You're definitely not the only one. They have been called out before for this exact stunt:

https://liliputing.com/2015/02/elementary-os-devs-say-youre-...

Along with the "you're cheating if you don't give us money" (paraphrasing) quip. There are better distros out there.

Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by xupybd on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:41PM (#18472197)
I don’t mind it. It’s a reminder that you’re getting something for free and that you could donate.

You have to enter 0 as oppposed to by default paying nothing.

Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by dymk on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:01PM (#18472329)
It’s just forcing you to confront the fact that you’re using software that others put a lot of effort into, for free. A simple fix to quell the bad feelings would be donate a few bucks. Win/win.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by dlivingston on Friday November 16, 2018 @06:58PM (#18472954)
This is a pretty common practice in the arts - Louis CK and Radiohead both used this to great effect.

Indeed, my recollection is that Radiohead made more money on their album In Rainbows doing 'pay as much as you want' than their label paid them on previous records.

Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by parf02 on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:41PM (#18472190)
I think it's totally fair they do this to be very honest.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by saagarjha on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:42PM (#18472201)
This is a relatively recent change. I remember that they used to be much clearer about this back in Loki.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by craftyguy on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:44PM (#18472213)
They've had this since at least 2015, so not really all that recent.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by saagarjha on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:52PM (#18472268)
Must have been Freya, then.
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by treeform on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:43PM (#18472212)
That is like the first thing I saw too. I was not fooled. But maybe this system works better then a free + donate button. Only data can tell... Maybe people are donating more with this system?
Re:Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacemen... by all2 on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:00PM (#18472327)
I didn't see anything remotely like A/B/C testing. They might benefit from something like that.